5 Easy Ways to Save the World - Bjørn Lomborg

💥Join us on our Journey to 1 Million Subscribers💥 Dr Bjørn Lomborg is a researcher, writer and the founder of the think tank, Copenhagen Consensus. He has collaborated with hundreds of the world’s top economists and seven Nobel Laureates to find and promote the most effective solutions to the world’s greatest challenges, from disease and hunger to climate and education. His latest book, ‘Best Things First’ posits 12 of these solutions and details how they can be applied in a relatively inexpensive manner.
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00:00 Intro
01:08 Best Things First
03:18 Education in Low Income Countries
07:17 Why Hasn't Education Already Been Fixed?
10:23 Sustainable Development Goals
14:20 Maternal & Newborn Health
19:37 The Desire For Complex Solutions
20:47 Sponsor Message: AG1
22:41 Corruption in the Developing World
28:21 Trade-off Denialism
30:15 The Malaria Outbreak
35:04 Curing Tuberculosis in Developing Areas
40:27 Immunisation & Vaccines
44:50 The Growing Anti-Vax Movement
47:45 Overcoming Infrastructure Issues in Developing Areas
53:30 How To Fix Problems Effectively
56:29 Should We Bring More People to the West?
1:00:10 The Brain Drain Argument
1:02:16 What Individuals Can Do to Help the Developing World
1:05:24 What’s the One Thing We’re Not Talking About?

[triggerpod]

WATCH exclusive bonus content where *Bjørn* answers audience questions.
CHAPTERS👇
00:00 Intro
01:08 Best Things First
03:18 Education in Low Income Countries
07:17 Why Hasn't Education Already Been Fixed?
10:23 Sustainable Development Goals
14:20 Maternal & Newborn Health
19:37 The Desire For Complex Solutions
20:47 Sponsor Message: AG1
22:41 Corruption in the Developing World
28:21 Trade-off Denialism
30:15 The Malaria Outbreak
35:04 Curing Tuberculosis in Developing Areas
40:27 Immunisation & Vaccines
44:50 The Growing Anti-Vax Movement
47:45 Overcoming Infrastructure Issues in Developing Areas
53:30 How To Fix Problems Effectively
56:29 Should We Bring More People to the West?
1:00:10 The Brain Drain Argument
1:02:16 What Individuals Can Do to Help the Developing World
1:05:24 What’s the One Thing We’re Not Talking About?

[Kipperbob]

Jordan Peterson said it best when talking about the UN sustainable development goals, if you aim at one goal you can make a plan to tackle the problem, when you have a list of what is it 160+goals, that's not a plan, that's a wish list!

[DarrellVermilion]

46:34 First of all, let's _not_ forget about COVID. Secondly, the reason the "antivax movement" exists in the first place is because we've reached a level of progress where vaccines appear to be causing more problems than they're solving; if this ISN'T the case, we should probably be having a much more serious conversation about the efficacy and safety procedures around vaccine development rather than castigating people who have already jumped through all the hoops that were asked of them throughout their entire lives with respect to public health—this stuff doesn't come out of nowhere, and trying to bury it just makes the problem worse. There's no reason why we shouldn't be able to revisit some of this stuff if for no reason other than to restore public trust sfter the disaster that was COVID.

[chrisbullard]

I can attest as someone who was homeschooled for a couple years for 5th and 6th grade, just having time to focus on the knowledge gaps and dialing in what I needed to know, those two years away from public school took me from being smart and moderately successful in school, to being a high achiever with minimal effort.

And homeschooling only took about 3 hours a day with no homework to accomplish way more than my peers could do in 6 hours sitting in school and not being able to go ride their bike or enjoy more downtime.

[kane]

Very interesting conversation, but when he got to immigration to the west I jumped a bit. Sweden has already done this and is now a country of 20% or more immigrants (a lot of them from MENA-countries) and the largest cities of Sweden are now bathing in gun-violence, gang-crimes and rapes. Corruption is skyrocketing and cultural and religious conflict is on the rise. France is almost in civil war because of ethnic conflicts. More immigration to Europe is a really bad idea.

[catobie]

Common sense does not prevail. Lust for power does.

[TiGGowich]

I've worked in Strategic and Management Consulting for over 15 years now and I've consulted some of largest companies, but also various governments and different branches of government across the world... and it has always been shocking to me how much money is wasted (more so in government than in private businesses but not significantly more - but it's obviously taxpayer money so it's worse...) on pointless things. It's shameful and everyone knows there are discussions to be had but it's really difficult to convince someone to actually make the RIGHT changes.

I've worked with one of the biggest branches of the UK government in recent years and after just weeks, my team and I had already identified a waste of more than 35 million GBP over two years, just developing stuff and doing things here and there to do something... but they had NO STRATEGY for any of this. I was so shocked and couldn't believe it. It's so common in Consulting to develop a strategy and a roadmap and exactly defining the "low hanging fruit" (short term) and the more strategic (long term) goals... but it's shocking every time how much money is wasted by these organisations on stuff that is utterly pointless or falls completely short of its expectations. We as humans are all somewhat resistant when it comes to change, but in governments especially my god even when everything is broken, you will find at least 50% of the staff who will tell you everything is fine because they cannot be bothered to change anything.

There are so many things you can do... and Bjorn is 100% correct in saying most of these things aren't rocket science... but they sure are difficult to implement in a society that is deeply divided, dominated by narcisstic egomaniacs in politics, corrupt, dominated by lobbyism and external influences etc.

I should write my own book... I feel like it would align really well with this discussion

[maddoglep]

We were in St Lucia and hired a taxi to show us the island. Our driver, Edgar, showed us a lovely brand new hospital payed for with E.U. money. He explained it remained empty. St Lucia had no money to equip it.

[madhusudan]

Easiest, cheapest way to save the world: Stop trying to "save the world" and leave people alone, in peace, to live their lives as they see fit.

[Roulandus-le-Fartere]

No institution, neither Government or NGO, has any interest whatsoever in solving problems. Once solved, the political capital, the money, snd the power will dry up. They're incentivise to perpetuate problems, not solve them.

[sportscarman]

Im so glad you were able to get him on the show! His message needs to be spread

[malcolmmaciver]

another great video guys, thoughts:
Education: I think this misses the point that not all youngsters are geared for education (and why should they be?). In this country, prior to the grammar system the most successful schools had mixed age classes, where teaching was geared by the teacher to the class - often centred on the needs of the older children, with them supporting younger children - do we actually need to consider the purpose of our education system - no issues with functional reading, writing, mathematics, science and civics - but should children who struggle be forced through to undertake low quality "degrees" because we grade our schools by proportion of students going on to HE.
Chronological Snobbery: Im not sure if this was Chesterton/Lewis/Tolkien that coined the term, but the idea of a 'machine' from the MontyPython sketch derives from the mantra that newer must be better - without assessing the functional gain from the new. This is definitely an issue in society that we shoudl consider - is new necessarily better?
Corruption: online bidding doesnt help - the specifications will be written in such a way that only the desired provider can provide - this is how its done in the west Tenders are written in such a way only one provider can provide (ive witnessed this in HE & NHS procurement).
Mosquito situation: yes but... There's more to this than what's presented - its not just that the mozzies are more agressive, historically malaria must have been more aggressive in Africa than elsewhere (both the microbe as well as the bugs) given the prevalence of sickle cell disease in the African population (this is an evolutionary adaption that makes individuals less susceptible to malaria, while it does occur, its much rarer outside african populations).
No one dies of TB in developed Im sorry for the tangent but I had a patient that needed hospital treatment for TB during lockdown 1 who died because they were unable to get treatment - the failure of the NHS in lockdown 1 is a travesty, this does need addressed...
Vaccine: fair sidestep re COVID vaccines, the risk/benefit would certainly warrant its own video - in around 1-2 years once the data begins to stabilise (considering the recent news that ~1/3 danish vaccines were placebo...). Re childhood vaccines, I think the issue is what warrants a vaccine vs what doesnt - a lot of the scepticism arises from vaccines for conditions that for the majority of cases are benign - the one that sticks in my mind is chicken pox - the insistence from some health sectors that this is an essential vaccination, while others dont recommend it (ie NHS).We do need some openness to the influences that insist the questionable cases get on a vaccine schedule - again a wider discussion.
Development regarding farmers: what isnt covered here is what happens when a farm produces more, to become profitable many of these farms have to expand. A subsistence farmer is not going to be able to produce dramatically more unless he/she expands - what happens to the families who lose their farms. In the western industrial revolution, the cities expanded simultaneously to enclosure and the excess labour was drawn into manufacturing - unless jobs can be found for these former farmers who dont manage to produce enough mass starvation is a realistic risk.
Societal cost: fully agree, one of the other issues of today - society has unrealistic expectations of what politicians can deliver, and attribute negative desires to politicians that they disagree with.
Education: it is abundantly clear that education is dropping in the west, despite increased spending: the level that students would come to us at uni's has got worse almost year on year, to the extent that year 1 courses have had to have added elements to ensure students understood basic concepts that they were meant to know from school.
thats all for now.

[gray]

"Hubris" is how I would describe this interview. Half way through the interview you want to "forget COVID" because what, its inconvenient to the conversation? You don't challenge any of Dr. Lomborg's findings or conclusions, something you have called out your own guests on for not doing in their own podcasts. His entire book should be called "How to save the world with Mainstream media thinking" or "Best Things First.... Sponsored by Pfizer". Seriously guys you are better than this.

[muian]

'Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good' Voltaire

[josephshepard]

I always forget how optimistic Dr. Lomborg is.

[christophertaylor]

The first problem here is the assumption that the world needs saving.

It does not. And this attitude is actually destructive to the planet, because it assumes that if we do x, y, and z then we can stop because we succeeded.

You take care of the planet and the inhabitants thereof because it is morally correct and good to do so, because we are caretakers who should tend the world as a garden, not exploit it like a pile of goodies. That never stops, that never ends.

[seespacelabs]

Great guest. I love that he doesn't waste a breath complaining. He's all solutions.

[nickpass]

This bit on the tablet is such crap! Having lived in remote parts of West Africa, my first thoughts were...where you gonna get the electricity from? They don't have it. They also don't have Wifi or mobile internet. It's one of those first world solutions that sounds nice until it hits the poor countries. Build them roads, give them electricity and running water. Then medicines and hospitals. Get them out of their mud and cement houses with thatched roofing. Then we can talk about tablets and internet.

[murraymarshawn]

F- sub Saharan Africa. I want to fix my locality. And my schools. I'm selfish with charity.

[blueprince]

Really starting to like these guys. Glad I found them.