This DARK Theory Completely Flips Harry Potter's Ending - Harry Potter Theory

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Welcome to Harry Potter Theory. Today we’re discussing a HORRIFIC Harry Potter Theory that bears the potential to completely flip the Harry Potter ending on it’s head. It involves (you guessed it) our main antagonist Lord Voldemort- and a scenario in which Voldemort…*gasp*..SURVIVES.

Voldemort is defeated (at least markedly) twice in the Harry Potter story.

His first defeat was at the Potter residence in Godric’s Hollow, where his rebounding curse (thanks to Lily’s loving sacrifice) shot back at him and ripped his soul from his destroyed body. This marked the (temporary) end of Voldemort, and the end of the First Wizarding War.

But Voldemort certainly wasn’t done- oh no no.

In 1995 Voldemort made his resurgence, more motivated than ever to take back control of the Wizarding World and get revenge on the boy who had defeated him.

However, this didn’t work out too well for him either, as shown in his final showdown with Harry during the Battle of Hogwarts.

And after this final fated duel, it’s generally accepted that Voldemort was dead. In the films, Voldemort’s body broke off in to thousands of pieces and vanished in to nothing, and in the books the former dark-lord was reduced to a corpse just like anyone else.

Eventually, after all of the dust has settled, Voldemort’s body is moved in to a resting Chamber within the walls of Hogwarts- something that the films fail to mention altogether. It’s here- somewhere entirely unspecified within the castle- that Voldemort purportedly lay for the remainder of eternity.

Or…DID HE?

The theory that I want to put forth today suggests that Voldemort, by way of- you guessed it- HORCRUXES- was able to survive.

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Thanks for watching all! This was fun to discuss. What do you think? Plausible or not? Did I overlook something obvious? Comment down below!

HarryPotterTheory
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As absurd as this theory is in reality, it would still be a better sequel than the cursed child

GTrevise
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Actually this falls apart when you read that after he came back from death Harry could now no longer talk to snakes. Which means the part of Voldy inside of him that made that possible was actually gone

DallyLama
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Riddle's body was never found after Halloween '81. Just his robes and wand. He actually left a corpse at the end of DH.

krystalbernier
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"So the part of his soul that was in me..."
Dumbledore nodded still more enthusiastically, urging Harry onward, a broad smile of encouragement on his face.
"...has it gone?"
"Oh yes!" said Dumbledore. "Yes, he destroyed it. Your soul is whole, and completely your own, Harry"

safsren
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When you said darkest theory, I thought you were referring to the one where Dumbledore, not Harry came back from that limbo. Dumbledore had bound himself to Harry which was how he was able to meet him there. Then he puts Harry down and comes back to live again. After all, the ending mentions twinkling eyes.

darthbane
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Limbo isn’t a permanent status; Harry has the option to move on because his soul is intact. Voldemort can’t because his soul is fragmented and unable to move within limbo itself, much less to the “other side.” Also, each time he split his soul, the soul he has for each time is split in half: each soul fragment is smaller than the last. It’s why Tom Riddle’s soul in the diary is so potent compared to this. Even if something of Voldemort was left, I doubt it’d be strong enough to do much, and it could die when Harry dies of natural causes. But I think Voldemort did die the final time at Hogwarts, dead body and all, because it wraps up narratively.

nicolemesser
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As I understood it, Voldemort's soul was with Harry in Kings Cross, but the newly destroyed piece of soul is not here for the exact reason that it is not linked to the real world anymore. On the contrary, the wounded part of Voldemort that still lives is in Kings Cross because it is in between life and death. And I suppose that when Harry kills him, this part vanishes from the limbs to be actually dead !

eynardtom
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At least in general, the soul isn't the same as the mind in Harry Potter. Snape says so (even if Dumbledore responds that this might be different in Harry's case - but this seems to mean that Voldemort had a different avenue of attack compared to other people he would use Legilimency against).

If the soul isn't the same as the mind, the mind itself should simply be Harry's. So how do you think Voldemort's soul would *learn* from Harry?

And if that soul fragment could take over Harry, why did it never do this before (especially with Voldemort or with the young Tom Riddle close by)?

TV-geuj
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The Dementors kiss takes your soul but it doesn't kill you, so the killing curse must do something different.

mikehunt
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The sacrifice of love Harry made was more poweful than what Voldemort could have fathomed. Harry was willing to die to safe all Hogwarts. That's why the last piece of Voldermort soul died forever as the intent of the curse to whom it was being casted upon contained both souls. The elder wand in the hands of Voldermort chose to hit and kill the caster.

untflutist
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What if they threw a still living Voldemort or his Horcruxes into the veil? If all of the Horcruxes were tossed through the veil, would it force his soul to also get trapped inside the veil as he would no longer have anything anchoring him to the mortal realm? Maybe he would still be alive in some form but trapped in a state of limbo, his soul not being able to enter the plain of the dead or return to the mortal world.

barbiquearea
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I was expecting more along the lines of, Tom using other magic besides horcruxes to double down on him being tied to the world of the living.
That at least would be plausible.

The soul fragment that lived in Harry was removed from the world of the living with the killing curse.
Harry could then return to his body as Harry's soul didn't take the full blast of the curse, Tom's soul fragment shared the blast of the curse which allowed Harry to return to his body where Tom's soul was unable due to being damaged and also the fact that Harry's body was his souls home, not Tom's.

Your explanation falls on the fact that IF Voldemort could take over the body and mind of Harry, he would have done so long ago when Harry was still an infant.
And even more so, Nagini who would have been taken over by Voldemort seeing as how Nagini didn't have the protection of love given by Harry's mother.

No, the story holds true to its ending. The soul fragment of Tom that was seen in Kings Cross is forever stuck in limbo as the soul must pass whole to the other side of back to the world of the living.
That's what makes the kiss of death done by dementors particularly terrible, as they rip the soul out and stores it inside them. Not allowing the soul to pass on anywhere.
Quite a lot of souls would be released if a dementor was actually killed. Makes me wonder what interesting effects that could have as the souls would return to the world of the living without a body and without a ghost. Now that's a follow-up story worth talking about.

RealCadde
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I feel like most of the answers later given to questions in the Deathly Hallows are like "of course it's not exactly what you'd expect based on everything that's been set up! It's something totally incomprehensible instead!"

broark
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1) Didn’t know they his body in Hogwarts, thought it is buried in an unmarked grave like Bin Laden - that’s actually pretty grim, especially for this fictional universe.
2) It was the Hallows that gave Harry the option to return from Limbo (at least that was what I took from that scene).
3) Following on from 1 and your definition of ghosts in this video, couldn’t it be that his ghost is lingering in the grounds of the school, manipulating people and making a whole new generation of dark wizards and/or Death Eaters; now THAT to my would’ve been a better sequel than the Cursed Child, and having the original characters’s children get how evil Voldemort was in live and still is in death.

lewisosborne
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I think since they both were in limbo and seperated at that point, each had a choice to go back to the earthly world or move beyond. Since Valdemote was only a fragment of a soul, and not a complete one like Harry, he didn't get a choice to go back or move beyond. He is stuck in limbo, unable to move forward or backwards so to speak.

drpepper
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The last fight scene in the movies was so underwhelming to me...

mr.aleximer
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2:22 I thought they fed Voldemort's body to the giant squid living in the Black Lake?

PoolKid
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The only way this could be worse is if the souls fuse into some terrifying combination of Harry and Voldemort. I don't think the Wizarding World needs its own Batman Who Laughs.

alwaysplotting
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imagine the problem this would create for the trio, you can't really kill Voldemort without killing harry then. it would be a check mate scenario that would be amazing to see....better than the cursed child..

jacquesduplessis