Pilot Actually Tries The IMPOSSIBLE Turn

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This pilot tried the impossible turn and thankfully survived! What went wrong and what can we learn from this incident?

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Hello, so I am one of the students from the school that the crash happened in. This video has really helped me understand what happened a little more and what to try and do next time when departing from KPDK and if this happens to me. Both the instructor and the student have recovered well and are still all good from what I’ve heard.

commitpoptart
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Perfect example of flying the airplane right up to the crash. No stall spin, quick transition to nose down allowed him to keep the airspeed up and maintain control. The only thing missing was an extra 50’ of altitude which was the only thing they had no control over. Great job surviving in a no win scenario.

heeder
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As someone who flies out of PDK, I can tell you there are almost no options especially at that altitude off the end of the 21’s. It’s nothing but narrow city roads and skyscrapers. I think, based on the surroundings and the altitude, this was the best choice.

braylenfab
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My Dad, who was a pilot from WW2 til 1981, told me his number one rule for flying was, "At a certain angle of bank the lift slides off the wing". Any landing you can walk away from is a good one (even if you're limping or being carried).

jimchape
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The fact that they both lived is incredible.

nategoodwin
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In my 20s when I was a Flight Instructor I encountered the exact same scenario as these two. It was at Fabens Airport just south of El Paso, TX. I did the impossible turn too as it was the only option due to manufacturing warehouses straight ahead off the end of the runway. This does bring back memories and I am now in my 70s. In the end everybody got to go home safely. Thanks for this video. Congratulations to that Instructor and student pilot! Well done!

Tsoiugidali
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I don't believe the pilot was "lucky", when as the report states "he pushed the controls forward". Sounds like he knew what he was doing. Looks to me like a perfect job by the pilot under just about the worst circumstances.

donmoore
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My grandfather always said, "Any landing you walk away from is a good one." He and a buddy built the first crop duster ever in Oklahoma. His Oklahoma pilots license was number 1. He said, "(He) set some down pretty hard but he never crashed an airplane." He was a crop duster most of his life and he died in bed at about 98. Tough old bird. I miss him.

billwalsh
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I retired from the USAF 20 years ago, and am about to retire from the USAF again as a fat, overpaid civilian. Your analysis and clarity in presenting these case studies is incredibly polished and articulate! You are one of the most effective briefers I've ever seen. You have done the USAF proud, good Sir, and I salute you for that!!!

dwyn
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As an aerobatic pilot with 5 deadstick landings, I think the pilot did better than most would be expected to do. As our host noted, he made a very quick decision and executed his plan well. With another 15 or 20 feet of altitude, he may made a clean turn to wings level. 2 seconds of indecision could be the difference in an outcome.

quigley
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Dude looks like a mature version of Stevo.

blondebeard
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My dad was the aussie aerobatics champion in the 70's. One day this same thing happened to him and me in a kit plane. He managed to turn as the stall warning was going off constantly. We made it safely and I jumped out not realising the gravity of what had just happened but my dad was frozen in shock and couldn't get out straight away.

chrisnewtownnsw
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Years ago a friend and I were coming back from a business trip to San Jose, CA, heading to Livermore, CA when our engine quit over Hayword, CA. The pilot didn't panic though. He called the Livermore airport to report the engine failure. They asked him if he wanted to put down at the nearest golf course and his reply was NO it's too much paper work, I think I can make it to Livermore. Needless to say it was a very quiet glide to Livermore airport. We landed safely and pushed the plane off the runway and thanked the pilot for saving our asses and staying very calm during the whole flight.

jerrybell
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The pilot had nerves of steel to resist pulling back - he kept flying speed no matter what. He knew that stalling the plane would have meant comming in harder and at a bad attitude. He already calculated a crash was inevitable, and chose the best possible option.

rinzler
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Notice that in the turn how low the nose is pointed. This is very smart in my view. Keep the wing flying and keep the plane turning. Had he kept it turning AND trying to save altitude it might have been a completely different outcome. Energy. He only had so much. Had he jammed in a bunch of right rudder and right aileron at 30 feet or so, he might have saved the plane as well. But who cares. The minute the engine quit, the insurance company owned the plane. Save YOUR ass, not THEIR aluminum. Nice work.

lbowsk
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That left turn back to the airfield was made purposefully. 100% skill. Decision was made and committed. Full left rudder, decent roll, right into a nose down. Swung that tail around and no stall... 'Some good flying right there!!

yotuyfd
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That reminds me of my mothers stories about when she was a student pilot back in the late 1930's and how she drove her instructors nuts because she loved to side slip into what they thought were impossible fields. She never had a crash ( Ran out of fuel a time or two ) in her years of flying up into the 1950's. Glad both made it in this video.

marknesselhaus
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I’m not sure if other flight schools do this, but the one I have gone through requires students to memorize a briefing about engine failure on take off. It basically is just what to do if it fails before, after (with runway remaining, and after again (with no runway remaining) take off. It was apart of our checklist and we had to repeat every time after our preflight.

shellv
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The lesson here is to act quickly and decisively while doing the exact right thing.

scottowens
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Just beginning my journey to becoming a pilot. This may be the most valuable advice I’ve seen for a new pilot.

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