KDE Plasma TILING is BACK!

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Nicco! My cousin! I can't believe it! You're here!

fug

KDE's default tiling needs auto-tiling

alternatuber

thank you for all the amazing content. love you!

ah the tiling stuff is cool too i guess

itsHanibee

I didn't know until now that Meta + Shift does sort of tiling in KDE. Neat!

POINTS

Unfortunatelly there's no option for working tiling script in Plasma 5.27 on Wayland :( Bismuth, and Krohnkite don't support, Polonium goes crazy with two monitors. The native KDE tiling feature makes no sense.

jacekgruchelski-harbon

MY NICOLO WENT WOKEEEE!!!! Nice announce by the way :D

kamekonoha

The usecase for whitelisting (I believe, i played with tiling for a bit but not using it daily) is if you have your main workflow applications tiled, and occasionally you open other apps for a short while and then choose them - so aside from the main apps you'd want all transient apps to be floating so that when they open and close, they don't move your tiles around (which will drive and people crazy).

guss

I didn't know super + t would bring up tiling! Thank you so much!

BALJIT

simply i cannot exist without bismuth tiling.... on plasma 5.27 (xorg) here on the bismuth master branch. it is the biggest improvement to interacting with my desktop environment since many years (even for decades). there is not option exist for going back or reducing the functionality.

bismuth author said we need 100% rewrite. i am not sure the underlying details but it seems needed for plama 6 (new kwin new apis). this is me ignoring those wayland breakage issue(s) of bismuth and thinking ahead a little bit further along. and saying that kde6 support / rewrites is more important than choosing between either xorg and wayland for myself. if that is also some natural consequence... then of course absolutely fine

dreamcat

Shift+mouse moves windows from tile to tile -- sorry if already mentioned by you or others. Thanks for your video & work!

oasismike

Border selected will highlight the currently focused window, at least that is how it works for other twms.

As for the issues with fragmentation etc.
It's an applet that hooks into kwin features, this means if there is a change, it could potentially break entirely.
This happened during the time I was using bismuth and I can see how this could frustrate tiling script devs.

DashieTM

I don't use tiling per se, but what I've done is I've assigned shortcuts to wrangle windows into zones on the screen. I've got shortcuts for each of the four quadrants as well as each of the four halves. Yes, four halves, because you have upper/lower half, left/right half. And if I need to do any custom wrangling super+left/right click to move and resize windows respectively. Maybe when I update KDE I'll check it out, but I'm content with what I have for now and maybe someone else can take inspiration.

anon_y_mousse

This is neat but man what I need is a manual tiling solution instead of a dynamic one, or at least a dynamic tiling script that lets me break my selected layout.
Like sometimes I want basically a master/stack that a dynamic tiler can offer, but I want these 2 windows side by side in the stack, or maybe I want spiral, except for this one window that stays horizontal. Dynamic tilers never let you break out of the layout.

On i3/Sway/Hyprland, I can always add dynamic tiling on top if I want it, but I can always break it when the situation calls for it.
So far I haven't found a KDE script that fits my needs in that way.
I could use the built in tiling, but it doesnt autotile, and doesn't have keyboard shortcuts for all the things you need to do (at least last time I tried it). I found one script that utilized it, but it was too immature for daily use.

DylanMatthewTurner

I've been using Bismuth for more than a year now, tried Polonium when moving to Wayland but the impossibility of moving windows with mouse and keeping then tiled without pressing SHIFT as a big turn off for me. And, as stated on their FAQ, that's a KWin quirk, so I really hope that KWin implement a way for then to support this way of moving tiled windows.

jaopredo

This seems to have a very long way to do, in the wake of Krohnkite and then Bismuth it seems far less useable and much more difficult to use - and if we can just use the normal (not auto) kwin tiling, then there seems little point unless it can mimic or improve on Bismuth.

BendyLemmy