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Ranger

0:00 What's new in the Ranger
13:43 Beast Master
18:06 Fey Wanderer
21:23 Gloom Stalker
26:02 Hunter

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[icaromota]

"you are now as a ranger able to command your beast with a bonus action"
The same one I use to cast Hunter's Mark? The main ability the class revolves around now?

[gratuacuun]

Level 20:

Cleric: I summon *GOD!*
Fighter: *Takes out whole squad by themselves with 8 attacks*
Wizard: *Casts Wish to rewrite reality*
Druid: *Becomes an immortal forest god*
Paladin: *Turns into an angel*

Ranger: Hey guys, look! I can do an average of 4 more damage a round!

[Space_VVizard]

Ranger needs to be an exploration themed mirror of the paladin to be successful. Focusing the entire class around a level 1 concentration spell with no scaling(until levels 13, 17, and 20) is simply not it. Give the ranger a climb and swim speed. Let them choose two expertise skills between Nature, Perception, Stealth, and Survival. And them give them the other two they don't choose at a higher level. Give them the paladin smite feature, but instead of nova damage it is damage plus status effects, such as blinded, restrained, exhausted, or frightened. Or prone, disarming, or shoving, like a battle master. Make it so that these conditions don't get saves. Eldritch smite has a no save prone, swords bard has a no save shove, I don't wanna hear people saying this is broken or OP. For the frightened, restrained and blind just make it so it lasts for one round instead of a save.

Instead of Divine Smite call it Nature's Fury. Now the ranger has a resource to expend that isn't chewing up their bonus action, so it can play much nicer with beast master, gloom stalker, etc. At the end of the day, so what if it ends up being over tuned? Rangers have been dog water for a long, long time, while paladin has been S tier. Give the ranger some love.

[yuvalgabay]

I can't believe as a lvl 20 ranger i get the aswome ability of +2 to dmg

Truly wotc out did them self

[Unendarkened]

How did this pass playtesting? Did the spell list actually cut out the massive number of concentration spells that compete vs hunters mark? Why oh why.

[AndrewThoesen]

The only explanation is that at some point Jeremy played in a group where a Ranger PC bullied him and he decided the class would never be playable again.

[alexg.]

So we all agree that we are gonna make our own Ranger if a player at our table wants to play one

[Housofpros]

im still crying that hunter’s mark STILL requires concentration. the free uses are great but come on a paladin doesnt have to concentrate on their aura, why does a ranger have to concentrate on their core class feature. its dumb af.

[btmikey]

"Gloomstalkers do a lot of psychic damage!" Ah yes. Forgot how crazy powerful a single d8 of damage is

[WokedOx]

Did he just say that my level 20 ability that i spent so much time working for.... increases my damage to a single enemy im concentrating on... by 2

[CleverEngr]

Why didn't they just make hunters mark a feature instead of just free casting a spell? They're making it such a necessity yet limiting it so much. You could just make it a feature so that 1. Doesnt need concentration and 2. Make it genuinely unique

[matthewmiller]

"We are looking at features to make sure they are the right action economy. Sometimes removing the action cost all together"
*makes paladin Channel Divinity options apply on an attack*
*also keeps hunter's mark a bonus action AND concentration*

[josiahtaylor]

"Just play a Fighter with a bow, it's better!" -JoCat

Still true today.

[ZiadCharif]

Capstone for Ranger: +2 damage, meanwhile wizards are a fireball machine gun...
Ehh, for my table I'll probably just homebrew it that it is a free action to cast, and/or doesn't need concentration, that feels better as a cap stone feature.

[OneShotQuips]

I making jokes that the Ranger still sucks? Or the party doesn't need him until level 10?

[i.am_berserk]

"The ranger is now a completly new class"

*Proceeds to describe the Tasha's Options for the Ranger*

[SirAron]

So you are telling me, instead of taking the opportunity to make Hunter's Mark a Class Feature without concentration. They keep it useless at higher levels and even claim that the lvl 20 cap stone ability is a damage increase of 2 points at average only if you use a spell that gets out scaled at that lvl. Feels like they on purpose choose to ignore the community on that one.
No concentration needed after lvl 5.
No dmg scaling for up casting.
Triggers once per turn.
And slowly scales from 1d6 to 1d8 than to 1d10 that was the better version, and they decided to make it useless.

[MekkaYGO]

So we all agree to homebrew no concentration hunters mark.

[elainelefey]

Tasha, can I copy your homework? Yeah, just change some things, so it's not obvious.

[zoloaftermidnight]

You can't even blame your unearthed arcana feedback for this because EVERYONE ALREADY VOICED THEIR COMPLAINTS FOR THIS!