100+ hours of research. Is the longer ending of Mark authentic?: The Mark Series pt 69 (16:9-20)

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Today's the day. I've spent weeks trying to dig deep on the debate of whether the last 12 verses of the Gospel of Mark are actually part of the Gospel of Mark.

Video Map with Time Stamps:
0:00 - Introduction
1. 3:45 Mike admits his bias
2. 7:39 Why this research was so hard
3. 10:04 Mike’s basic conclusions on the passage
4. 11:21 Here begins the external evidence analysis
5. 16:40 Codex Sinaiticus
6. 22:38 Codex Vaticanus
7. 33:55 How important are those 2 manuscripts really?
8. 36:18 Codex 304; a Byzantine MS that ends at vs. 8
9. 40:40 Other Greek manuscripts that weigh in on this
10. 52:00 Syriac translations
11. 54:30 Armenian translations
12. 55:49 Georgian translations
13. 56:42 Sahidic translations
14. 58:03 Latin translations
15. 1:00:13 Lectionary systems
16. 1:01:38 What church fathers have to say
17. 1:02:35 Irenaeus (c. 180)
18. 1:04:01 Tatian (c. 170)
19. 1:04:38 Eusebius (mid 300s)
20. 1:10:45 Jerome (early 400s)
21. 1:16:03 Victor of Antioch (5th or 6th century)
22. 1:17:22 Clement of Alexandria
23. 1:18:04 Origen
24. 1:19:11 1st Clement (c. 95)
25. 1:22:00 My thoughts on Lunn and Snapp
26. 1:22:34 Conclusion on the church fathers
27. 1:24:32 What is the “internal evidence”?
28. 1:28:58 How vs. 9 doesn’t fit with vs. 8
29. 1:33:16 Two common bad examples of internal evidence
30. 1:36:45 Kai is not like Mark
31. 1:41:29 The historical present
32. 1:43:06 The demonstrative pronoun
33. 1:44:46 Verbs for perception
34. 1:45:57 The strongest piece of internal evidence
35. 1:50:10 21 Markisms
36. 1:55:00 The million-dollar question of scribal motives
37. 2:03:55 Why I still want the longer ending in my Bible
38. 2:06:46 Lingering issues

This is part 69 of the Mark Series, going verse by verse through the Gospel of Mark.

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Video Map with Time Stamps:

0:00 - Introduction
1. 3:45 Mike admits his bias
2. 7:39 Why this research was so hard
3. 10:04 Mike’s basic conclusions on the passage
4. 11:21 Here begins the external evidence analysis
5. 16:40 Codex Sinaiticus
6. 22:38 Codex Vaticanus
7. 33:55 How important are those 2 manuscripts really?
8. 36:18 Codex 304; a Byzantine MS that ends at vs. 8
9. 40:40 Other Greek manuscripts that weigh in on this
10. 52:00 Syriac translations
11. 54:30 Armenian translations
12. 55:49 Georgian translations
13. 56:42 Sahidic translations
14. 58:03 Latin translations
15. 1:00:13 Lectionary systems
16. 1:01:38 What church fathers have to say
17. 1:02:35 Irenaeus (c. 180)
18. 1:04:01 Tatian (c. 170)
19. 1:04:38 Eusebius (mid 300s)
20. 1:10:45 Jerome (early 400s)
21. 1:16:03 Victor of Antioch (5th or 6th century)
22. 1:17:22 Clement of Alexandria
23. 1:18:04 Origen
24. 1:19:11 1st Clement (c. 95)
25. 1:22:00 My thoughts on Lunn and Snapp
26. 1:22:34 Conclusion on the church fathers
27. 1:24:32 What is the “internal evidence”?
28. 1:28:58 How vs. 9 doesn’t fit with vs. 8
29. 1:33:16 Two common bad examples of internal evidence
30. 1:36:45 Kai is not like Mark
31. 1:41:29 The historical present
32. 1:43:06 The demonstrative pronoun
33. 1:44:46 Verbs for perception
34. 1:45:57 The strongest piece of internal evidence
35. 1:50:10 21 Markisms
36. 1:55:00 The million-dollar question of scribal motives
37. 2:03:55 Why I still want the longer ending in my Bible
38. 2:06:46 Lingering issues

sarahfaith
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I was that Christian who went through doubt because of “contradictions”. I went through that over reaction to everything. It is actually worth going through the journey and coming out on the other side more confident in my faith than ever.

chantalr.s.a.
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You know it’s a Mike Winger video when he says “we’re just getting started” 40 minutes in 😅

mccoyyoung
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From now on whenever I disagree with anyone I'm going to accuse them of having Egyptian influence.

sweetbabygarf
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My brain works like yours with studying the bible! I can spend a week or a year to just study out something I might question. You don't know how much I appreciate the TIME you spend to study things out and then share it with all of us. You don't know how many times I've heard "somethings we just have to wait and ask Jesus" from leaders just because they don't want to take any time studying. Huge blessings to you!!

melodycapehartmedina
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I'm amazed he managed to keep my attention for over 2 hours talking about only 12 verses in the bible that really don't change anything about christianity while it is 1 am here, eventhough he already told us the conclusion beforehand

jochemschaab
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Here’s a quick comment for the algorithm. Also thank you for all your hard work. I’ve prayed for you last week and today Mike.

lydiawilsey
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I remember the day in seminary when my new testament professor, as an aside, said, " this part of Mark may not be part of Mark." And then he went on his merry way. In the back of my mind I have been obsessed with this for many many years, but did not want to do the work :-) thank you for doing the work I am grateful for your ministry to me. God bless you.

therevddaviddubay
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I would rather learn everything I can about textual issues than be surprised by someone else bringing it to my attention. I want to be prepared for objections to scripture, not plug my ears and shout to block them out.

joelpierce
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My husband and I had the opportunity of watching this sermon in person as Mike preached and we were able to fellowship with him as well! It was so eye opening to the amount of research he conducted on this specific topic as well as feeling nostalgic as he taught since we watch his videos frequently. We both in our mind we’re like “wait let me hit the ten second rewind button” 😂😂😂 it was a pleasure meeting you Mike. Thank you for speaking with us and guiding us to some helpful resources in our studying! May God continue to bless your ministry :)

sailorhannah
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Gonna be honest, I totally underestimated Mike on this Topic. I really didn't think you'd go into other fields of study like Biblical Textual Criticism. I knew this topic was going to be good, once Mike started saying it was taking longer then usual to have this topic ready, but I didn't think it was going to be this much of a deep dive.

Keep doing what you're doing Mike. You've honestly impressed me.

BurningOne
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I don’t know how to convey how clear this is. I have studied textual issues and higher critical methodology for years. I have advanced degrees in it and I can honestly say this guy did a great job without diminishing the texts authoritative nature. Hard to do.. kudos to you.. impressive.. and the article on methodology you recommended is excellent.. One of the biggest problems in biblical studies is the loss of rigorous methodology.

dawsonjarrell
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I thank God for the hard work Mike put into this. Rarely does a YouTube biblical issue video change my mind on an issue. It's a little too soon to say for sure (I need to let the info sit a little), but this video may cause me to shift from leaning heavily towards thinking the long ending was original to leaning heavily towards thinking it is not. Mike, may God continue to bless your study and teaching and bless many through you!

MarkWCorbett
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“Germs can not pass through microphones yet.. they’re working on it”
Lol

adamcolejones
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Thanks for all the hard work you’ve put into this Mike. It’s inspiring how committed you are to deep study of the Word before presenting to your audience 🙏✝️

lionoffireministries
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I really appreciate your intellectual honesty and your willingness to tackle tough subjects like this.

DaveRoberts
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Thanks, Mike! That was a deep dive into a relatively tiny pool in the scriptures. I appreciate all your time and effort. You put in 150 hours, but I only put in 2! Love your teachings!

mratliff
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As an EFL teacher, the part about syntax and Mark sounding like a 6 year old using 1 tense and “and” a lot sounds very familiar because that is how almost all of my students write. They communicate well, can understand academic papers (in high levels), but it is clear English isn’t their first language when they write. So seeing the ending of Mark would be like seeing a paragraph copied from wikipedia at the end of a research report. It is very easy to spot the difference.

Thanks for the information.

jennifereldridge
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Wow. Such great research. I am one hour into this and I already know you have saved me more than 150 hours of research. Your staff is spectacular in all of the links provided. A lifetime of content on your channel. Kudos.

UTubeQuche
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So glad to have found this channel.

I spent a lot of time way too invested in politics. My eyes were finally opened to how bad it was, and I started to pull away. This channel has given me something to help replace it, and helped me learn more about my faith at the same time!

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