How Do You Know There Aren’t Many Gods?

Michael Shermer presents an objection about the identity of the creator of the universe based on the kalam argument and fine-tuning.

[ltlsWhatltIs]

If you are timeless do you have a beginning?

Shermer: Yes, of course.

[JoeLackey]

"These are just words."
Apply that logic to the IRS and see what happens.

[seekingtruth]

For those commenting that there was no explanation, Frank basically said that all things that are composed of different things (a composition) need an explanation for their existence outside of themselves (a composer). However, you can't have an infinite regression of causes (otherwise current physical events would never occur) so there must have been a first cause that was not itself composed of things. If the first cause was composed of things, then it would need a cause and would not be God. But eventually you would reach the end of the chain with the uncomposed first cause which is God. I think Frank's view would be why complicate the explanation and not just stop with the cause of all space, time, and matter being God, rather than some creation of God.

[sethinneon]

As soon as he tried to argue against "if you're timeless, do you have a beginning?" I knew the argument was lost.

[zxx]

THERE IS ONLY 1 GOD
omnipotent omniscient all mighty
All praise to the utmost highest God Amen!

[maxlatour]

A Scientist does not know the definition of timeless....sad.

[accentedreality]

It has always seemed to me that Michael Shermer is more a fan of what about-ism than truth-seeking.

[mikeramos]

There is only 1 God. You cannot have 2 infinite’s

[stickmansam]

Shermer digged his own hole in this debate. Positing multiple creator-gods does FURTHER damage to his position. If this is his 'strong rebuttal', he should've argued as a polytheist instead of an atheist, debating with Turek on "Is there one or more creator God?" instead of "does God exist" :-)

[ghostysama]

Pray for Michael brothers and sisters.

[adamalmir]

Here’s a more simple answer. Ockum Razor’s law, “Do not multiply causes beyond necessity.”

[new-mississaugaevangelismc]

Atheism is ultimately a denial of what is clearly seen and understood. How sad. Let us continue to proclaim the Gospel in hopes they repent. This is what we do in our evangelism in Canada. Truth refutes falsehoods.

[gloryboundkev]

The problem seems to be that the antagonist is just that. He does not want to logically think this through. Perhaps he is afraid of groupthink. He is afraid of what the crowd may think of him if he does not give their answer whether it is true or false. He is not concerned with truth but rather fear of what the mob might do to him.

[ImpalerVlad]

“Many are called, but few are chosen”

[dwayneab]

A question I ask atheists to answer-
How did we comprehend a spiritual realm where a God could exist without any pre awareness of a spiritual realm or any pre awareness that we were created by a being unknown to man.

[BT]

Shermer proved that his atheism is irrational and illogical

[aa.]

-If you are timeless, do you have a begining ?
-Yes...
Brain - dead.

[denissutherland]

2 Timothy 5 "They will avert their ears from the Truth and they will turn to extravagant tales."

[dn]

The bible specifically mentions other real gods. Ever read the accouint of moses? He tried to persuade pharaoh to "set his people free". Moses had his brother perform some miracles but the pharaohs priests who followed another god were able to match those miracles. Even when his people were set free they immediately made an idol to worship another god, why would they do that unless there were otther gods around that were of comparable power to the one that had just freed them.
And I am sorry but blaming the devil just doesn't cut it because if it was the devil then god should have been freeing the egyptians as well.

[mikesarno]

Shermer is so intellectually dishonest. I wouldn't waste my time talking with him about anything.