BYD's blade battery is NOT what excited brand fans think it is

BYD's blade battery is NOT what excited brand fans think it is

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[AnthonyRBlacker]

It's interesting, people go bananas over cutting edge, leading tech, ground breaking etc etc, but hey, they're building a relatively (in comparison) safe battery that fulfills a market need TODAY, that is comparable in energy to weight considering the safety of the units. AND they're MOVING PRODUCT! They're NOT abusing the environment so bad as all the MINING these cutting edge batteries are using.. I think it's GREAT, I've told all my friends to invest in BYD if at all possible (if not use a firm that holds them).. Good on you for putting the news out there for what it is!

[MichaelSmith-pxev]

I think BYD strategy here is that they have a battery that is good enough for production and to be able to meet the insane demand for EV’s for the next few years. Once that this initial demand slows they will then focus more on improving it going forward. Most everyday people just want a battery that works and that won’t explode or catch fire and get the every day usage job done at a reasonable price. This is what every OEM should be doing to solve the main problem of reducing emissions ASAP rather than making a so called ‘killer car’ or ‘better battery’.

[lesbendo]

Interesting to see the Model Y blade battery version coming out of Berlin.

[ericng]

Actually, BYD had revealed that they are developing LiMnxFe1-xPO4 battery which is a more efficient lfp battery by adding magnesium material. But it is BYD style that they will only show the finished product when it is put on production. Moreover, a new battery pattern patent that is different from blade battery has just been registered by BYD recently.

[rammpage]

Personally, choosing safety for slightly less range alone is a good deal for me, not to mention, LFP batteries are cheaper... I don't know why anyone would go the opposite. Be careful, you play with non LFP EV, you could get burned, and I don't want to be a toast turkey.

[frankcoffey]

I think BYD is keeping their more advanced development close to the vest. Just because they don't announce everything they are working on doesn't mean it's not in the works.

[terrancel]

The blade design is revolutionary itself.

[georgepelton]

Sam, Glad to hear your voice getting better. I have read that BYD Blade battery packs are a structural part of the car, with the cells as stressed members. This is state of the art tech that helps compensate for lower cell energy density. Also the cell format has a lot of surface area, making them easier to heat and cool when needed. It seems that the blade cell format is uniquely suited to LFP chemistry.

[costiqueR]

If I remember well, this is how I get you on my list. Yes, BYD blade batteries were a marketing thing at the start, and still are, but also have obvious advantages.

[pcobra]

Gotta Give you Props for quality and in depth research. This is what a small time investor like me, needs

[Dave-dm]

LFP struggles at temperatures below 5 degs C. But thermal insulate the pack and battery power can be used to keep it warm. Once it’s in use, normal discharge current will keep it warm enough.

[sigma_six]

thanks Viking... you've EARNED your status as an expert in all things EV all around... and you never limited yourself to just Tesla... that turned out to be wise strategy, which makes even more sense now, credit to your Aussie perspective... cheers

[heppo]

One more disadvantage is the lowered performance in cold climate. I would still choose LFP if it was available for a 4wd Tesla. I hope it soon will be. Love how you can charge to 100% without any worries. Thank you for your hard work Sam.

[DutchChristian]

Congrets on the 80 thousand milestone 🎉

[azguzb]

U should mention the energy density of the structural battery pack with blade batteries. Not the chemistry is revolutionary but the suitable for EV form factor makes it great

[RoguePCU]

There’s also the fact that, unlike Li-ion, LFP batteries can utilize their entire capacity, from 0-100% when charging. Not having to be limited to the recommended 20-80% range is a huge bonus. Depending on one’s use case, this feature alone can make up for the loss of overall density.  

Plus, add in it’s more compact packaging (ie. rectangle vs round), lower cost, higher safety, better reliability and longer life… seems like leading tech to my eyes. And it’s only going to get better? Sign me up.

[fengcao]

The second generation blade battery is coming out later this year. It will offer 180 wh/kg at pack level. Not industry leading, but pretty good. The thing is that BYD's products are never going to sound like the greatest, but they work as expected and are safe and are cost efficient. With CTB technology, they save a lot of structural weight. So I think in practice, they are always going to be the cheapest and among the most dense LFP technologies out there. They don't need to boast about having the highest density level to get sales. They keep their mouth shut and just build stuff.

[brucetownsend]

So, BYD is following the Toyota approach rather than the Mercedes approach: aiming for spectacular reliability and affordability rather than cutting edge performance. This makes their cars a better choice for a very large section of the market.

[jamesholtz]

I am a 10 year employee of BYD in America. I think your comments are spot on. We never beat our chest we just do what we do well. Safety is our top priority. We will always compromise battery density for safety.

[chuckgoodwish]

I would rather take safety over density as far as EV battery is concerned.