Who is ACTUALLY STRONGER?

They honestly have pretty different applications, the fact Logos can do most of the tuff blaze and nymph can without needing a support (even if to a lower extent) really speaks to how strong he is and the other 2 can surpass him but need their best support s for that

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[Storn_]

I found out after posting the video that Blaze can actually kill patriot but you need to time it right so more enemies walk inside her range and get burned which makes her get a few more bullets, if you do that she kills patriot slightly slower than nymph in around 11-12s

[shun]

Truly the Arturia showcase of all time

[irene]

Logos: Nice try, but I'd attack range expands, ATK +300%, and attacks strike 4 targets at once; enemy projectile speed in attack range is greatly reduced, and all projectiles are removed when the skill expires.

[k_a]

" above here i don't see God, other than myself "
-sogoL

[mkah]

Logos with his module feels more primal caster than the whole primal caster.

[dashima]

So, In summery,
Nymph : is best at shredding through RES itself.
Blaze Alter : can shred both boss and elite wave at the same time
Logos : Even when used alone, still has powerful amount of damage and pop elemental by himeself.
From what I can see, they all has solid pros and there is good balance between them.

[Vadikus]

Ermm, Logos can technically kill all the slugs in just 1 sec if you timed his S1 🤓

[anastil]

Must say Logos benefits more from Suzuran s3 than Arturia. With Suzu he dishes out much more damage because he, as core caster, benefits more from fragile and slow than necrosis proc, necrosis in his kit is a bonus on top unlike the primal casters.

[kyarumomochi]

Logos having better cycles, better damage, better range, CC and debuffs on top of his 100k+ damage kit is just so good. He also happens to support himself on elemental damage too. Literally peak.

[lando]

Analysis Summary: (timestamps, pass/fail, and clocked time for all portions below)

Trash Mobs: (Timestamps: Nym: 0:00, Bla: 0:25, Log: 0:40)
Nymph: 16:22s - Pass
Blalter: 5:06s - Pass
Logos: 9:28s - Pass

Boneguards: (Timestamps: Nym: 0:55, Bla: 1:20, Log: 1:39 & 2:06)
Nymph w/ Virtuousa: 17:57 - Pass
Blalter w/ Yu: 4:52s - Pass
Logos: 19:18s - Pass
Logos w/ Virtuousa: 16:01s - Pass

Emperor's Blade: (Timestamps: Nym: 2:32, Bla: 2:57, Log: 3:16 & 3:40)
Nymph w/ Virtuousa: 10:02 - Pass
Blalter w/ Yu: 7:29s - Pass
Logos: 15:05s - Pass
Logos w/ Virtuous: 8:02s - Pass

Patriot & Shieldguards: (respective clocked time for each enemy type) (Timestamps: Nym: 4:03, Bla: 4:37, Log: 4:57 & 5:40)
Nymph w/ Virtuousa: 10:34s & 27:21s - Pass
Blalter w/ Yu: +13:00s & +13:00s - Fail (Patriot 10%, 3 Shieldguards left)
Logos: +38:00s & 37:01s - Partial Fail (Patriot 10%, no Shieldguards)
Logos w/ Virtuousa: 20:49s & 24:45s - Pass

Sanguinarch: (Timestamps: Nym: 6:12, Bla: 6:57, Log: 7:23)
Nymph w/ Virtuousa: 30:33s - Pass
Blalter w/ Yu: +18:00s- Fail (Sanguinarch 60%)
Logos w/ Virtuousa: +41:00s - Fail (Sanguinarch 60%)


Hope somebody finds this helpful!

[BlankNoire]

in some case they do the job.

maybe as for consistency being primal caster, Nymph ranked 1
as for interesting mechanic, Blazer while her skill active and enemies keep getting elemental burst
well, Logos being Logos, can handle mob, focus damaging boss, or cool s3 mechanic

[bitutopia]

Logos is not just Lelouch, he’s freaking Gojo Satoru as well.
Logos truly is the honored one.
Like Gojo, his birth was extraordinary (he’s a male Banshee with exceptional talent in Arts)
His S3 slows projectiles, kinda like what Infinity does.
He’s an Elite Operator so he’s one of the strongest, like Gojo is
Both are just plain haxlords and have fought opponents just as tough as them (Sanguinarch and Mahoraga)

[IamHero_]

Tbf, Logos being the strongest Caster is lore accurate lol.

[vovadybravsky]

Noted: Virtuosa must needed, pull at the first opportunity

[cefrinaldi]

Logos having his module make him both ritualist and primal caster. Meanwhile actual primal caster need ritualist to proc elemental impairment to actually do good damage.

[ian]

I'm fairly certain that virtuosa is not logos best support for S2 since he can pretty rapidly trigger necrosis without her. I think Warfarin is going to be a much better support for that skill.

For S3 I'm actually not certain who the best support is Warfarin definitely gets nerfed a lot due to already having big attack modifiers from the skill. Though even nerfed she might be better than virtuosa.

[lucasbotelho]

So we have some Directions

*DPS* < *Balance* > *Clear*
Nymph < Logos > Blaze

This is for *most* situations, I believe that I don't have to elaborate everything since we're talking about Arknights and this is a game for people who think, so I'll go straight to the point

Something that we should take note is that Logos just deals elemental damage because of his module, that's not part of his base kit. I love Logos and also understand how well that fits with his character, thematic and lore; still my rational answer says that we should wait for primal caster modules release before saying "superior" this or "superior" that.
No I'm not annoyed by the video or Storn, I actually enjoyed both the video and how he does things, but from all the comments I've seen towards elemental damage and/or Logos/primal caster comparisons I didn't see *a single soul* ( in arknights community, not only yt) mentioning that Primal Casters are yet to receive a module ( I know, it's too obvious to mention, but from the way most talk it's like they even forgot that a module will even exist)

I personally believe that one of the Primal Casters module will give then natural elemental build-up while the other intensifies harshly their damage while maintaining their dependency, but who knows? I got very disappointed with some modules recently, but some others left me flabbergasted, who knows what hypergryph is cooking? We can only wait.

[nier]

Contrary to what most people think.
I really like this kind of play style where you need a certain OPs to open the max potential of an Operator. Really fun mechanic imo. HG more please.

[rgod]

Broh others need limited supports just to reach a fraction of logos's power . Still pulling them tho 👍🏾.

[ipatchymakouli]

We can only pray she gets a module to inflict burn herself (much like Logos).
Units working in pair is just clunky/not practical.

Nymph damage is technically the best against high res enemies, but you don't bring her in your team for her S3.
You use her because S2 is that good (no boss is immune (except static ones), scales with SP regen/chocopasta/cc duration in IS), pops Necrosis. Works on her own.
Logos is also THAT good because he works by himself. He obviously gets better with Arturia, but do you really bother using her along him? How often in reality? Genuinely curious.

By that logic, I don't see a SINGLE stage where I'll say "oh, Blaze S3 carried that one". Her only utility is S2 burn, since elemental damage is currently busted. But she doesn't seem to inflict it that fast...? Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'd rather have Arturia, even with a team full of casters that can benefit from Burn RES shred. And oh wait. Aren't the best casters scaling off Necrosis instead anyway?


Even her only gimmick being a ranged dollkeeper... is cool, but how does that help in any practical way? It's survivability, not utility. Survivability only matters for units able to block, or to stall fast hitting enemies.
Specter(s) S2 are useful because they buy a lot of time against hard hitting stuff that can be blocked (remember CC12?). Big def tanks help block big POO robots for example.
Lin, the only real ranged tank, was only BRIEVELY meta for one mission: Underdawn. Simply because Nethersea brand basically banned ground blockers, and her defense allowed stall (where Suzuran/Gnosis weren't enough to crowd control everything)

I could be missing something, but I don't see a situation where a ranged dollkeeper would carry, other than by not requiring heal?

I'm open to some enlightenment, if it's not hype doused in copium. I don't think she's bad, she packs numbers. Especially with Yu. Hence my first line.