How Creationism Taught Me Real Science 64 Mammal Evolution?

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In this episode we uncover the truth behind the supposed lineage between reptiles and mammals.

References:

Creationist Arguments:

Comparative Embryology

Embryology

Jaws to ears

Organ of Corti

List in Order

Paleothyris - Carroll 1969 (early Pennsylvanian approximately 312 to 304 million years ago)

-----Protoclepsydrops haplous - Carrol 1984 (early Pennsylvanian approximately 318 to 314 million years ago)

-----Clepsydrops - Cope 1875 (early Pennsylvanian approximately 310 to 290 million years ago)

-----Archaeothyris - Robert R. Reisz, 1972 (early-mid Pennsylvanian approximately 306)

-----Haptodus - Gaudry, 1886 (late Pennsylvanian approximately 299 to 296 million years ago)

-----Dimetrodon, Sphenacodon or a similar sphenacodont - Cope, 1878 (late Pennsylvanian to early Permian, approximately 295 to 272 million years ago)

Biarmosuchia - Sigogneau-Russell, 1989 (late Permian approximately 272 to 252 million years ago)

-----Procynosuchus - Broom, 1937 (latest Permian approximately 260 to 253 million years ago)

-----Dvinia - Amalitskii, 1922 [also "Permocynodon"] (latest Permian approximately 254 million years ago)

-----Thrinaxodon - Seeley, 1894 (early Triassic approximately 251 to 247 million years ago)

-----Cynognathus - Seeley, 1895 (early Triassic approximately 247 to 237 million years ago)

-----Diademodon - Seeley, 1894 (early Triassic, 240 Ma; same strata as Cynognathus)

-----Probelesodon - Romer, 1969 (mid-Triassic; South America approximately 246 to 216 million years ago)

Probainognathus - Romer, 1970 (mid-Triassic, approximately 239 to 221 million years ago, Argentina)

Exaeretodon - Cabrera, 1943 (mid-late Triassic, 239Ma, South America)

Oligokyphus - Hennig E, 1922, Kayentatherium - Kermack, 1982 (early Jurassic, 208 Ma)

-----Pachygenelus - Watson, 1913, Diarthrognathus - Crompton, 1958 (earliest Jurassic approximately 209 to 189 million years ago)

Adelobasileus cromptoni - Lucas & Hunt 1990 (late Triassic; 225 Ma, west Texas)

Sinoconodon - Patterson & Olson, 1961 (early Jurassic approximately 208 to 190 million years ago)

Kuehneotherium (early Jurassic, about 205 Ma)

-----Eozostrodon - Parrington, 1941, Morganucodon - Kühne, 1949, Haldanodon - Kühne & Krusat, 1972 (early Jurassic approximately 205 to 145 million years ago)

Steropodon galmani - Archer, Flannery, Ritchie, & Molnar, 1985 (early Cretaceous approximately 105 million years ago)

Stagodontidae -Marsh, 1889 Pariadens kirklandi (late Cretaceous approximately 95 to 66 million years ago)

Cimolestes - Marsh, 1889, Procerberus, Gypsonictops (very late Cretaceous approximately 68 to 66 million years ago)
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Excellent video and well-timed for my convenience, as my own series on the Systematic Classification of Life is just getting to the diversification of basal amniotes.

AronRa
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This episode is mis-titled. It should read, *"How Creationism Taught Me A Shitload Of Real Science".*
Amazing job, Tony. Wish I'd had this video when I was trying to learn that stuff in college, 20 years ago. This, however, is one of the reasons I actually get a bit _angry_ when Creationists proclaim there is "no evidence". As you pointed out, there's so much evidence that there's a backlog of fossils on shelves in university/museum basements, waiting to be evaluated and classified by grad student teams. There's so much that there are now _too many_ candidates for a given (former) "gap" to tell which one was the specific ancestor of a given line. There's so much evidence that just describing all of it in detail would fill a book the size of the one in which Darwin made the prediction that we'd find exactly what we've found in droves. I'm amazed that you did such a good job of boiling it down to 11 minutes, for this transition, yet packed in so much info without seeming to rush. As always, well done, sir.

robertrichardson
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But what about the missing link?! All you did was show a bunch of fossils and explained exactly how they're related and relevant but that doens't prove anything. I demand you how me a half reptile, half mammal or you're just trying to confuse me. I DEMAND YOU SHOW ME THE IMPOSSIBLE TO SATISFY MY UNREASONABLE EXPECTATIONS!!!! WHERE'S THE CROCKOMOUSE, HUH? Checkmate, atheist.

uzimonkey
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Most of these fossils come from South Africa (that's where I live). One of the most interesting fossils in this sequence is Diarthrognathus predicted by Robert Broom (based on common descent) and then later found, what made this one (Diarthrognathus) so amazing is that it had both the reptilian and mammalian jaw joint at the same time (hence the name). Great episode!

daviydviljoen
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Every time I watch another of your videos, I come to the same conclusion that you, sir, are criminally under-subscribed.

DeathsHood
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I'm a mammal with bits of dinosaur in my belly right now. Checkmate, evolutionists 😂😂

cerberaodollam
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Another great video, thanks. I don't think creationists would be convinced even if you were to produce the remains of every single individual ancestor - not just the species, but the actual individuals - right back to the first eukaryotic organism.

condorboss
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I'm always blown away at the amount of detail and information you pack into each video. Great work.

josefbecker
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I keep imagining golf ball sized hailstones of evidence smashing against the windshield of creationism, and yet the creationists keep on blindly motoring toward the sheer cliff of ignorance.

duckmeister
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Absolutely criminally, criminally, under-subscribed.

JustAnotherPassenger
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the best part of being up is a Tony Reed video in my cup!

DeconvertedMan
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excellent video, i like the subtle mention of there being so many fossils that academia can't decide where the reptiles end and the mammals begin. logically if we found one good averaged sample of every transitional species and laid them frame by frame. we'd basically have a movie where something akin to a booger smoothly transformed into some random human. personally I'd nominate Ken Ham just for the irony of him immediately rejecting evolution.

MrOsmodeus
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Excellent work. I'm amazed at the level of detail.

LamirLakantry
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An excellent review and description of the numerous transitional fossils between reptiles and mammals. Well done. Keep up the excellent work, tony!

kellyandrichweddle
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I think I know the real reason Creationists can get away with saying there's no evidence for evolution. This stuff is actually quite hard to grasp and it is so much easier to claim God did it. Almost everyone can understand that concept of a creator (or a builder or an artist etc.) quite easily but actually educating yourself in the evidence of a fairly counter-intuitive concept like evolution is really hard work.

In my opinion the strong cognitive dissonance the theory of evolution creates and the tendency toward confirmation bias, which simplistic Creationist answers give, explains 95% of the modern Creationist movement.

daithiocinnsealach
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Another great video, your ability to keep them coming is amazing. Thanks!

Richardj
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Thank you so much for these videos Tony. They are so well laid out and so thoroughly researched. I have watched all of them several times. It never ceases to amaze me that from the laughably low aim of debunking utter silliness can come something this interesting. Thank you.

DanieHattingh
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I've been catching up on the backlog of your videos, still only in the 21st but I thought I'd jump to a more recent one to say good work! The more one looks into it the more astounding it is the amount of evidence from a massive range of disciplines that creationists have to ignore or misrepresent.

simongiles
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Brilliant video! Thanks for the info and mentioning scientists that contributed so much to this.

HeavyHauler
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Don't know if it's just me, but it sounds like there's some kind of audio error around 8:57.

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