The REAL Origin of VENOM and Spider-Man's Black Costume! || Comic Misconceptions || NerdSync

You can't talk about the history of Venom without talking about the history of Spider-Man's black symbiote suit! So let's do that, then. Today, we're talking about how a random comic book fan came up with the idea of Spider-Man's black costume which was introduced in the Secret Wars comic event, and how the fans hated it so much that the writers turned the suit into an evil alien symbiote just so Spidey would get rid of it. Also, learn about the true story of how Venom was originally supposed to be a woman!

Every Wednesday, Comic Misconceptions explores the fun trivia, interesting ideas, and mind-blowing theories regarding comic books and the rich history and culture that surrounds them!

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SOURCES:
Amazing Spider-Man #251
Amazing Spider-Man #252
Amazing Spider-Man #299
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Web of Spider-Man #18
Web of Spider-Man #24
Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man #99
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Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed #50

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[Jebbtube]

The crazy lady Venom would've been pretty interesting.
A bit dark for Spidey, but interesting.

[DCJVIDS]

Marvel should make an alternative universe or a what if story of the female venom character actually happening. They can start the book right from the point of the husband and unborn child dying.

[MysticalGreenBeanie]

anyone else notice how fans hate something at first, then years later they say it's the most iconic thing ever o_0

[Neuroticmancer]

Man... That female villain sounds so great, it fits so well in Spider-Mans guilt complex. They should do it now

[RealGengarTV]

09:42 I'm all about the black suit really... It just looks cleaner and stealthy.

[SonicRooncoPrime]

A female Venom would have been awesome. Maybe this origin will be explored in canon at some point? We can dream...

[ThePinkMan]

Female Venom sounds like she had a better motivation to hate Spider-Man than Eddie Brock did.  I guess Michelinie had to sort of half-ass Brock's origin when he realized the editors weren't going to let him use his original idea.  What always annoyed me is that Venom should have equally hated Daredevil if the capturing of the real Sin Eater is what got him ostracized from journalism (Although the symbiote's own animosity towards Spider-Man might've overrode those feelings).

[EVGriffinJr]

Venom could've worked as a female as well. I believe that was the sexiest mindset of the time. Don't get me wrong, I love Eddie Brock, but a female would've work too.

The red and blue costume of Spiderman is always going to be classic. That being said, oh always preferred the black suit! LOL! Seriously, It was a lot slicker and it just made him look more badass!

[CosmicNerdStudios]

"definitely not going to be garbage." umm... about that...

[chungdha]

Female Venom be great atleast could give spidey more female villians to fight with.

[invisiblejaguar]

Lol, the fun of being in the future from when he said the new FF movie won't be garbage.

[oct]

I love that original black and red suit concept

[DWolf]

The black suit is by far, my favorite suit, it's just better choice out of all of Peter's suits. I would wear a alien symbiotic suit, it's symbiotic not parasitic.

[KennethLyVideography]

The female Venom idea is very compelling. I hope they use it later. My fav suit is actually a recent one. The Tron-like stealth suit he had during Big Time.

[fearthepiggaming]

honestly I'm a huge fan of the white suit he wore when he was part of the Fantastic Four it was freaking awesome.
As for Venom personally I think I would have liked a female version sense Spider-Man's Rogues Gallery is such a sausage fest especially back then.

[ThethSnake]

The Mr. Fantastic-designed suit idea was used in Spider-Man Unlimited too.

[georgepadilla]

How long does it take to reconfigure the Rubik's cube in the background into the designs that it has on it.
Or is it just a green screened background?

[ZestonN]

The Female Venom would've been awesome, because the story is so horrifying.

One of the great marks of a villan is how justified they are in being a villan.

Spiderman "kills" her entire family and drives her insane? Perfect!

Piss on that guy who thought a woman couldn't be threatening.

Female Venom would've been nightmare fuel, because the reader would feel for her, while she was killing Spiderman.

[geonfsmostwanted]

1. Black-Suit
2. Classic Red-Blue
3. Scarlet Spider (classic)
4. Ben Reilly Spider-Man
5. Spider-Carnage

[Valentinexyz__]

I would've liked the idea of a female Venom. Especially because her reason for hating Spider-Man seems less petty than Eddie Brock's. Granted, her child and husband's death clearly wasn't Spider-Man's fault, but still