Spider-Man 3 - What Happened?

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"if a director doesn't love something, it's wrong of them to make it when so many other people love it"
I would love Hollywood to learn this lesson

Janier
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THe birth of the Sandman was one of the best storytelling moments of the entire and it turns out it's cause it was what Sam wanted to do in the first place. Sam Rami knew Sandman how to make Sandman, how to Direct Sandman, and how to visually show Sandman. if the Studio hadn't done so much micromanaging We might have gotten a Much better SPiderman 3

Sonichero
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Sony: "This guy made us two blockbuster movies, let's mess with his concept! There's no way that can go wrong"

I really feel sorry for the team. You can see the amount of love they put into the first two movies and even in the third, as much of a mess as it is, you can see the parts where they knew exactly what they wanted. It had tons of potential. If only Sony understood that they can't just force characters into a script like that... They could've just teased Venom at the end and make the forth one about him.

BATTIS
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Honestly even though Venom was forced in, Raimi's original intended vision for Venom being something that very literally eats away at the person physically (which is why there is previs shots of a black suited Tobey seeing an almost alive version of it in the mirror) would have been an amazing way to keep the strong horror notes and define Venom enough even with the lack of scenes.

You can still see notes of it in the final shot of the symbiote where it's all bony and trying to reform itself now Eddie's been pulled out, and I think that's also why it's the best Venom scene in the entire film by far, cos it clearly hints at something that could have been and also Venom is actually scary for that half second of screen time.

jimbob
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I think the scene where Eddie becomes Venom at the church would've been an appropriate point to split the script, purely because it would make for an interesting cliffhanger and drum up hype for the big battle against Venom.

perkilatorxiii
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Topher Grace left That 70s Show to film this movie

So not only did this film kill the first major spider-man film series, it also indirectly killed That 70s Show

JC
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At first I wasn’t sure if you were going to cover the movie or the game.

SAPProd
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"It was so awful, having been the director of Spider-man 3"

It's ok, Sam. You were the director of Spider-man 2

kof
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It double sucks that 3 turned out the way it did, because it not only killed the Raimi series it ALSO killed The Spectacular Spider-Man series since Sony sold off their animated show rights to buy themselves time to get the reboot off the ground...

RisingJay
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The new Mutants is another perfect example of studio interference and meddling. I'd love to see a "what happun" of that

thernnnamed
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Nice to know No way home finally broke the curse of Spider-Man films having multiple villains turning out badly, and it only took them their 3rd try .

ratchetxtreme
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I always enjoyed Spider-Man 3 despite it's issues so it's cool seeing it have a resurgence online as of late.

RJH
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This is another story I knew everything about it going in, I've had this knowledge for about a decade now, with new details bubbling up every few years, especially after Sony and Avi kept doing new dumb stuff to further remind people.
I always feel bad for Sam Raimi, because everyone knows him as a nice guy, and he legit TIRED with this, but the process and the backlash really affected him. Cut to now, he's doing Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, his second favorite character, and with Kevin Feige, a man who always had his back in those early days. Hell, Spider-Man 3 was Feige's last major Non-Marvel Studios movie before becoming the studio head, the things he had to go through with Avi Arad, Bryan Singer, and later Ike Perlmutter to get here.
This story had a happy ending of storts, but with the antagonist still out there, planning for the future... Wait, Sony Pictures doesn't plan all that well lol

GenerationWest
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I feel like making this a two-parter would have been the best decision. Just make the first movie about the Symbiote Suit, end the movie with the church bell scene, setting up Venom for the main antagonist for the fourth movie. Hell, lose the "amnesia" plot and you could potentially have enough time for a better origin for the symbiote and let Raimi throw in the Vulture for his swansong before passing Spiderman 4 to a new director who loves the newer comics and gets Venom better.

EmperorSeth
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Since you mentioned Avi Arad (probably misspelled it) in the video, I think it’s only fair I mention that around the time Spider-Man 3 was being produced/coming out, the comic Ultimate Spider-Man had a story-arc where Sam Raimi was making a Spider-Man movie, and Peter gets mad because he thinks it’s kind of a dick move to do a movie about him; more importantly, Avi Arad actually appears in the comic and is portrayed as kind of a dumbass

PPinho
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Sam is one of the few filmmakers who has seen runaway success and humbling failure with a huge budget, and a non budget. He always bounces back tho and that’s why he stays winning.

domarealhumanbeing
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I remember being a kid and loving the first 2 movies, so I was excited for the third and saw it in theaters.
When I walked out of the theater I was left feeling extremely confused at what I just watched and wondering why it felt nothing like the other 2 movies.

As an adult, I love it for the memes.

LeeEverett
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It's great that, despite Spider Man 3, Sam Raimi's legacy is remembered fondly.

madmanmortonyt
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To be fair to Raimi, for someone who claimed they didn't understand Venom, he got the basics of the origin story down. And casting Topher as an anti-Peter makes sense, but Venom being a hulking beast is already very anti-Peterish. It's a shame to see how badly Raimi got screwed over during the production of this picture, it's even more of a shame to see how much he beats himself up over it. Dude directed two of the best movies of all time, he shouldn't hold this one stumble against himself. Either way, I'm sure he'll do great with Doc Strange 2. The fact that he's directing is the only real reason I'm excited for that movie. And hey, if Spider-Man 3 hadn't failed, we might not have gotten Spider-Verse or No Way Home, so there's that at least.

Also, can we all just agree that the score slapped? And the black suit itself looked awesome!

clarktooncrossing
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The third Spider-Man game was so faithful to the films it followed their path of shitting the bed after an amazing second installment

m.s.e.advanced