Early Christians: YAHWEH is Actually the DEVIL

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In the Platonic, Neopythagorean, Middle Platonic, and Neoplatonic schools of philosophy, the demiurge is an artisan-like figure responsible for fashioning and maintaining the physical universe. The Gnostics adopted the term demiurge. Although a fashioner, the demiurge is not necessarily the same as the Creator figure in the monotheistic sense, because the demiurge itself and the material from which the demiurge fashions the universe are both considered consequences of something else. Depending on the system, they may be considered either uncreated and eternal or the product of some other entity.

The word demiurge is an English word derived from demiurgus, a Latinised form of the Greek δημιουργός or dēmiurgós. It was originally a common noun meaning "craftsman" or "artisan", but gradually came to mean "producer", and eventually "creator". The philosophical usage and the proper noun derive from Plato's Timaeus, written c. 360 BC, where the demiurge is presented as the creator of the universe. The demiurge is also described as a creator in the Platonic (c. 310–90 BC) and Middle Platonic (c. 90 BC–AD 300) philosophical traditions. In the various branches of the Neoplatonic school (third century onwards), the demiurge is the fashioner of the real, perceptible world after the model of the Ideas, but (in most Neoplatonic systems) is still not itself "the One". In the arch-dualist ideology of the various Gnostic systems, the material universe is evil, while the non-material world is good. According to some strains of Gnosticism, the demiurge is malevolent, as it is linked to the material world. In others, including the teaching of Valentinus, the demiurge is simply ignorant or misguided.

The first and highest aspect of God is described by Plato as the One (Τὸ Ἕν, 'To Hen'), the source, or the Monad. This is the God above the Demiurge, and manifests through the actions of the Demiurge. The Monad emanated the demiurge or Nous (consciousness) from its "indeterminate" vitality due to the monad being so abundant that it overflowed back onto itself, causing self-reflection. This self-reflection of the indeterminate vitality was referred to by Plotinus as the "Demiurge" or creator. The second principle is organization in its reflection of the nonsentient force or dynamis, also called the one or the Monad. The dyad is energeia emanated by the one that is then the work, process or activity called nous, Demiurge, mind, consciousness that organizes the indeterminate vitality into the experience called the material world, universe, cosmos. Plotinus also elucidates the equation of matter with nothing or non-being in The Enneads[9] which more correctly is to express the concept of idealism or that there is not anything or anywhere outside of the "mind" or nous (c.f. pantheism).

The figure of the Demiurge emerges in the theoretic of Iamblichus, which conjoins the transcendent, incommunicable “One,” or Source. Here, at the summit of this system, the Source and Demiurge (material realm) coexist via the process of henosis. Iamblichus describes the One as a monad whose first principle or emanation is intellect (nous), while among "the many" that follow it there is a second, super-existent "One" that is the producer of intellect or soul (psyche).

The "One" is further separated into spheres of intelligence; the first and superior sphere is objects of thought, while the latter sphere is the domain of thought. Thus, a triad is formed of the intelligible nous, the intellective nous, and the psyche in order to reconcile further the various Hellenistic philosophical schools of Aristotle's actus and potentia (actuality and potentiality) of the unmoved mover and Plato's Demiurge.

Gnosticism presents a distinction between the highest, unknowable God or Supreme Being and the demiurgic "creator" of the material, commonly identified as Yahweh, the God of the Hebrew Bible. Several systems of Gnostic thought present the Demiurge as antagonistic to the will of the Supreme Being: his act of creation occurs in an unconscious semblance of the divine model, and thus is fundamentally flawed, or else is formed with the malevolent intention of entrapping aspects of the divine in materiality. Thus, in such systems, the Demiurge acts as a solution to (or, at least possibly, the problem or cause that gives rise to) the problem of evil.

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[Tara-Maya]

The greatest trick Yahweh ever played was making you believe Satan was someone else.

[AE-wifh]

The Bible doesn’t describe God as absolutely good, UNTIL Jesus describes the actual Father as good. Jesus freed people from Yahweh.

[guitaoist]

Hosea 13 says YHVH is like a “lion, a leopard and a bear.” While Revelation 13 says the BEAST is like a “lion, a leopard and a bear.”

[zenfsh]

Isaiah 5:20-21

"20Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil,
who put darkness for light
and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet
and sweet for bitter!
21Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,
and shrewd in their own sight!"

[HalfKaztBoy]

In one of the lost gospels Jesus was laughing at the apostles for practising the passover feast (Jewish tradition). He then tells the apostles that they are actually worshipping a demi god, and not the true creator.

In another of the lost gospels he was telling the apostles that the old Testament God was something like a high ranking Demon, and that the true creator would never ask for animal sacrafices.

I believe that in reality Jesus wanted us to serve the true creator by becoming as loving as possible, through extreme kindness, gentleness, forgiveness, generosity and non attachment to the world. And I believe that by doing that we start to experience true Joy and happiness from our hearts, and that is where our true creator resides.

[anandarogers]

I remember at age 15, I stopped going to church because I realized the only reason why I believe in God is because I'm fearful of him and that's not true faith.
Edit: since stepping away from church, I have found a Divine Love (God) anything that feels like love is God to me and anything that feels like fear isn't. It's simple as that ✨

[becketmariner]

There's a Japanese video game where the heros find out that YAweh is really Yahdebeoth the twisted creator... They fight him and his fake image and find out that he's a deranged malnevolent being.

[laj]

Imagine the lengths of degradation, degeneracy, murder, cheating, and other vile acts a unified people that call that thing their deity and that deems them special unto him and above all others are capable of in this world. Then look at our 'modern' world and see what such a cult can achieve if it split into 3 different cults with hundreds of sects, spanning the majority of the 8 billion people alive today.

[D.A.T.J.]

It’s crazy how the “God” of the Bible, looks way different when you look at ancient history and actually read the Bible for what it is

[smurf]

Even as a practicing Catholic, seeing wildly different readings of the same scriptures is very interesting, I really do feel most christians never leave their dogmatic slumber

[aprilk]

I wish I had even one person in my life to chat with about these things in depth. It’s fascinating to me!

[danielgriebling]

I was raised super religious (Pentecostal) and one of my first self aware religious thoughts (pretty young)was: The OT god is a real a-hole; This doesn’t seem even a little bit like Jesus.

[berserkerbambi]

God: "Hey Abraham, sacrifice your son to me!"
Abraham: "What?! Oh no, please not my son! I really don't want to, please do i have to? Please don't make me do this! Etc. Mental agony..."
God: "You have to, i want it!"
Finally Abraham takes his son on a mountain to sacrifice him. God calls off the son-killing and sends a little lamb to murder for him in stead. Turns out He just wanted to see if Abraham would do it. ... What more do you need to know about this guy?

[jamesstaggs]

I'm not sure how anyone can read the Old Testament and not identify Yahweh as anything but evil.

[ansfridaeyowulfsdottir]

I've been an Atheist for more than 50 years but was brought up Roman Catholic. I find a lot of the ancient heresies fascinating, and they sometimes make a lot more sense than the post-Nicaean doctrine.

Gnosticism particularly makes the most sense, because if there ever *_were_* such an entity as YHWH, his personality, actions and temperament are utterly opposed to the supposed nature of Christ. It makes a lot more sense that YHWH was an insane, psychotic, Sumerian demon who was deluded that he was the only Divine being in existence, and Christ came from the True god to warn us and save us.

But this is the first time I've ever heard of YHWH sounding like a donkey braying!

*EEE-YORRRR!* 🐴

{:o:O:}

[darcthenightwitch]

The irony is that people don't differentiate between Yahweh of the old testament and Jesus's God who is actually El the creator chief Canaanite god, hence why Jesus is name Emmanu(el) originally. Yahweh is a demanding deity, while El is a loving deity and the Phoenicians discribed him as such.

[SayedHamra]

I come from a Muslim background in which Allah is very similar to Yahweh. 

Whether the same or not, they are psychopathic tyrants, demanding absolute loyalty and obedience and warning of dire punishments for not doing so, and trying to appease them only leads to neuroses, cognitive dissonance and addiction which are typical in the victims of psychopaths.

My view of the Source is similar to that of the Void in Zen Buddhism, or the Ancient Greek notion of Logos (the synergetic sum and source of all known paradoxes and contradictions, i.e polarities.

Indescribable, unclaimable by any creed or sect, and virtually unknowable, virtually in that one can have a sense of its existence via an appreciation of a wide variety of disciplines and perspectives which each give a sense of its presence / existence.

Gnosis via agnosia.

[houragents]

For me, it was the foreskin question. It was his obsession with circumcision that led me to believe YHVH is evil.

[tmore]

I was raised Catholic, when I first read the book of Exodus, the story about the plagues, the reason why they were sent, particularly, the last plague which sought to kill the first born child of every Egyptian house hold.

[thomridgeway]

Look at The Bible time and time again people and animals are sacrificed not just for their God, but on the direct instructions of their God - especially sons, even children. To even allow that states that this is not a good God - this is an evil God.