Genesis 6: 1-2 sons of God

The sons of God in the OT have never been angels.

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The sons of God in Job 1: 4-6 Expalined!! A person has to use CONTEXT....Context is King.
4 His sons used to go and hold a feast in the house of each one on his day, and they would send and invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them.
5 And when the days of the feast had run their course, Job would send and consecrate (SANCTIFY) them, and he would rise early in the morning and offer burnt offerings according to the number of them all. For Job said, “It may be that my children have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts.” Thus Job did continually.

6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.

When Job presented the animal sacrifice/burnt offering (Job 1:5) this was in the days (Plural) of Feasting. There are Two "DAYS" mentioned in the days of feasting found in Job 1: 4 and Job 1: 13 and there are also Two "DAYS" when the sons of God presented themselves Job 1: 6 and Job 2: 1.

Job 1:4 " And his sons would go and feast houses, each on his DAY, and would send and invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them
Job1: 6 "Now there was a DAY when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.
Job 1: 13 " Now there was a DAY when his sons and daughters eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother’s house;" sons and daughters are Jobs, his household.
Job 2: 1 "Again there was a DAY when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.

Job 1:5 So it was, when the days of feasting had run their course, that Job would send and consecrate (SANCTIFY) them, and he would rise early in the morning and offer burnt offerings the number of them all. For Job said, “It may be that my sons have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.” Thus Job did regularly.

The proper interpretation is pairing together Job 1: 4 with Job 1: 6 and pairing together Job 1: 13 with Job 2: 1, keeping Job 1: 5 in mind and applying that thought to with the verses that are paired together. Basically what happened is in Job 1 :4 and Job 1: 13 the feasting would be taking place, then the following day Job 1: 6 and Job 2: 1 early in the morning Job would present the animal sacrifice/burnt offering unto the Lord God. Job is being made Holy as well as his Household (wife, sons, daughters), because of the sacrifice (burnt offering), sanctification, atonement and shed blood of the sacrifice, this brings Job's Household into a position of "Adoption", hence forth sons of God are explained in Job 1:6 and Job 2: 1 which happened the following day. This all took place during the days of feasting.

Job 1: 4 "and his sons would go and feast houses, each on his day, and would send and invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them." Verse tells us the days of Feasting each had there own day and there were probably 7 days of Feasting or could be 8 days of Feasting with Job because the Jews had 8 Feast days, 7 is more likely, because Job had 7 sons. Job was not a Jew, he was a Patriarch/head of the household and lived before the Jews and the Law was given. In the context given there are 4 separate DAYS mentioned in the text with in the 7 or 8 DAYS of Feasting.

My view overall that Job's children were predestidated to Christ, since they were Concecrated/Sanctified (Made Holy), meaning the Soul. Have to apply the Context and which means applying the burnt offerings/animal sacrifice. The sons of God are clearly Job and his is all a fore shadowing of the Complete Sacrifice and Promise of Jesus on the Cross.
Also to note like it says in Romans the wages of sin is death, Jesus made the final payment for sin with his death, but before the death of Jesus and before the Law and Israel, people like Job a Patriarch would offer death unto the Lord God for sins. Like it says fpr Job's children. The conversation between God and Satan is in the spiritual realm while Job and his household are in the material/earthly realm.
Has to do with Sanctification, Justification and Glorification. Of course the Glorification is future since the soul is atoned for a future Glorified body. These souls of the OT, like Job and his household. Job had to continually offer sacrifices unto the Lord God, just like all of the OT sacrifices even the nation of Israel with the Levitcal priesthood offered sacrifices with shed blood, this was the old covenant with the blood of animals. These sacrifices were only good until the next sacrifice was offered.

Hebrews 8: 5-6
5 They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: “See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.” 6 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.

Looking at Job since he was a father/patirarch he is serving as a priest and offerings burnt offerings/animal sacrifices unto the Lord God for the sins of his household, which is a shadow and fore shadowing Jesus who is the true High Priest in Heaven and the heavenly places. All these animal sacrifices are with the shed blood of animals under the Old Covenant ot the animal sacrifices. This is all in association, relationship and identity with Jesus the High Priest is the Son of God, so natually the patriarchs/fathers like Job (household) are given the status to be called sons of God. Angels or any kind of spiritual beings of a so called divine council of super angels NEVER were given priestly duties and offered burnt offerings/animal sacrifices unto the Lord God.

The same is true with the nation of Israel, Israel had a Levitical preisthood with animal sacrifices, a day of atonement, passover and ect... under the Old Covenant with the blood of an animal like a lamb, bull or goat, which point to Jesus as High Priest and the New Covenant in His Blood which He shed on the Cross and making the final payment for sin. Israel had a tabernacle and later a temple which is mentioned in Hebrews 8: 5-6. The patriarchs like Job never had a tabernacle or a temple, but they did offer animal sacrifices like the Levitical preisthood.

Explaining sons of Israel. Exodus 4:22 says "Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the Lord, Israel is my firstborn son". God is speaking to Moses in this passage, also this is another book of Torah. The passage of scripture of the name change for Jacob to Israel Genesis 32:28 "Then he said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel, for you have striven with God and with men, and have prevailed.”

Israel (Jacob) had 12 sons which would be 12 tirbes with Many Generations. Getting back to Exodus 4:22 says "Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the Lord, Israel is my firstborn son".
Since Israel was the "firstborn son" to the Lord God, which would means Israel/Jacobs offspring would be "sons of God" or also to say "children of Israel"
The twelve tribes are as follows: Reuben, Simeon, Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, Benjamin, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Ephraim and Manasseh.
See how many Generations came from Isreal (Jacob)

All the animal sacrifices is a offered by earthly priests (mediators) like Job, Noah, Abraham, patriarchs and Israels Levitical priesthood is just a model and a foreshadowing of Jesus and His role of High Priest, which is a better sacrifice and His shed blood as the True Mediator between God and man.

Jesus on the Cross made the FINAL PAYMENT for sin and the FINAL SACRIFICE. This is why it mentions sons of God in Job, this is all tied into the Sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross, who is the Son of God. There would be NO sons of God mentioned in both OT and NT without a Sacrifice and Shed blood offered unto the Lord God for the payment of sin and atonement for the soul.
To call sons of God angels, watchers, fallen angels or a so called members of a divine council made up of a bunch of non human spirit beings/superangels in the OT is actually blasphemous against Jesus (High Priest) and the Cross, as well as how God dealt with sin of the Individual in the Bible.

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Israel are the "gods" in Psalm 82, the "gods" are human NOT nonhuman like this Heiser guy promoted.
Israel was unique from the pagan nations that surrounded them, Israel had the law of God, 10 commandment, prophets and a Levitical priesthood. Since Israel had the law of God, it put Israel in the position of being "gods, " becuase God chose them, Israel was God's chosen people.

Psalm 82:6 I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you;
John 10: 34-35 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), "

1. >>>>"I said, “You are gods” by the God (Father) in Psalm 82. Aspaph is the Author and Psalmist of Psalm 82. Prophets of the Old Testament like Asaph the "word of the Lord" would come to Prophets like Asaph. Prophets were the "Voice" of God. God (Father) would communicate His words through the prophets, God does that here in Psalm 82:6 I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of Psalm 82 uses the word "all". This clearly is not about a bunch of watchers/super angels of a divine council. The Psalms were written to and for Israel.

2. SECOND time Jesus in John 10: 34 Repeats >>>> ‘I said, “You are gods” Jesus is addressing humans in this text, the humans are Israel, we know that, becasue the text in John 10:34-35

Jesus also tells us in scripture in John 10: 34-35 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), "

A few verses before Jesus says to His audience is John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

This points to the Trintiy as One, the Trinity is One and the Same God made up of THREE persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. In this part of scripture are Two persons of God, the Father and the Son.
That is why you Pair up " I said, “You are gods" in Psalm 82:6 and John 10:34

The law Jesus is talking about is the "law" God gave Moses in verse 34 and in verse 35 "gods" (Israel) is to the word of God came, which would be prophets of the OT, like Moses, Asaph, and ect..

Okay lets look into this. People like Mike Heiser beleived that the audience and listeners (gods/elohim/sons) of Psalm 82 is referring to nonhuman angelic spirit beings/super angels of a divne council being addressed and talked to in the heavens in the spiritual realm.
So that would mean that Jesus would be in the heavens in the spiritual realm addressing His audience in John 10: 34, that makes ZERO sense and No logic!!!

Very Clear that Jesus in John 10 and all of the NT Jesus is in the Physical realm addressing humans, so that would mean that Humans are being addressed in Psalm 82 in the physical realm, Heiser taught that Pslam 82 is in the spiritual realm about a bunch of non human spirit beings (non human super angels) totally false, that is why Jesus answers the question of the "gods" of Psalm 82 in John 10, Hesier blindly oppossed Jesus, which is anti-Christ.

Lets's look at Strongs Concordance for more reference that Israel are the "gods" of Psalm 82
The name Israel ends with an "El/el" which means of God/god. The word Elohim/eloihm starts with an "el" and Israel ends with an "el".
Transliteration: el Phonetic Spelling: (ale) Original Word: אֵל Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Definition: God (El/Elohim, in pl. gods (el)

Israel also literally means, “One who struggles with God.” Definition "God strives, " another name of Jacob and his desc. Hebrew: Strongs >>3478. Yisrael
The word “Israel” in Hebrew is spelled ישראל and pronounced “Yisra’el”. It is a combination of two Hebrew words: “yashar” which means “straight” or “upright”, and “el” which means “God” in pl. gods (el). Together, “Israel” means “one who struggles with God” or “God contends”. In the Hebrew Bible, Israel was the name given to Jacob after he wrestled with an angel of God (Genesis 32:28). Later, it became the name of the Israelite people and the modern State of Israel. Clearly Israel are the "gods" of Psalm 82 God/Elohim woujld be scolding them, Israel was always contending with God/Elohim in the OT, funny thing is, Christians do the same thing, contending with God.

Something else to point out since Israel are the "gods" of Psalm 82. The people of the nation of Israel would sing the Psalms, really no different than today when a Christians go to church Hymns and worship songs are sang, so I really hard to believe the Heiser's "gods"/divine council made up of a bunch of watchers/super angels sang the Psalms.

Another point is since Israel was God's chosen people, they had the Law, word of the Lord, prophets of God, ect... it elavated them to represent God different from the surrounding pagan nations, that is why Israel (Jacob's decendents) are called "gods" both in Psalm 82 and then by Jesus in John 10, of course Jesus was addressing a small group of Israelites in John 10, not "all" of Israel like in Psalm 82. Remember Israel would sing these Psalms and were the chosen people.

Israel as a Exodus 4:22 You are to say to Pharaoh, ‘This is what the Lord says: “Israel is my firstborn son." If you know your bible Jacob is Israel and there would be 12 sons borns to Jacob, which make up the 12 tribes of Israel. When a person reads Psalm 82:6 when it mentions "sons" it is referring to the 12 tribes of Israel in the physical world.

In reality what a person can get from scripture is that Jesus tells us who the "gods/elohim" are in Psalm 82 when we read John 10 34-35. Jesus is the One who fulfills the words of the prophets from the OT in the NT, that is why Jesus REPEATED the exact words " I said, “You are gods, from Psalm 82 (God/Father) in John 10 (God/Son).

Something else to Notice in Psalm 82:6 I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, ALL of you;" Notice the word "ALL" at the end of the verse, the "ALL" is refering to "ALL" of Israel.

The gods/elohim/divine council in Psalm 82 are not disembodied spirits, angelic or nonhuman spirit beings, they are Israel, all of Israel (Jacob's descendents) would be human, which includes judges, elders, rulers, kings, and the common Isrealite citizen.

The true view is that Jesus tells us who the "gods" are of Psalm 82 in John 10. Heiser was FALSE and in ERROR on his teaching of Psalm 82.