Horsepower vs Torque - Gasoline vs Electric Cars

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Honda S2000 Gasoline Horsepower vs Nissan Leaf Electric Torque
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Because electric cars produce peak torque at zero RPM, you might be surprised by the acceleration they're capable of, especially at lower vehicle speeds. On the other hand, internal combustion engines need to be spinning up at a much higher speed than electric motors before they produce peak torque, especially engines like the F20C in the Honda S2000 used in this video.

The cars chosen for the comparison are quite different. The Nissan Leaf has high torque, 236 lb-ft, but relatively low power at 147 HP. The Honda S2000 on the other hand has decent power, 265 whp, but low torque at just 163 lb-ft. The engine is designed to make peak power and peak torque at very high RPM, above 8,000, versus zero RPM like the Leaf. The S2000 is much lighter, however. Which vehicle will accelerate faster? I've created a simple 0-80 mph test to show how the torque delivery of each vehicle differs.

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1:55 "in the real world, you're not going to be dumping the clutch at every stoplight that you get to".... that's where you're wrong. 😂

JMassa
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Great video as always. I'm surprised you didn't mention how shifting gears manually also slows the acceleration of the s2000, while the leaf doesn't waste time shifting.

KirkKreifels
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A chart taking in to account the RPM changing when you change gear in the S2000 would also be interesting.

Speed vs power if you're in the perfect gear.

tomcardale
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I love the look on people's faces when I blow by them in my Leaf and they were expecting to be faster. 😂

hondaguy
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You're going to start seeing more and more electric motor swaps especially with better batteries. Swap that Nissan Leaf motor into a 240Z or Datsun 2000 coupe and you've got an oni that'll crush many cars more expensive and pedigreed.

Edgar-Friendly
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One factor that isn't mentioned: the transmission. The Leaf has a single ratio, while the S2000 has to shift during the acceleration run, meaning that the acceleration is higher in the RPM range for more of the acceleration run (e.g. beyond the ~0-20 mph range) for the combustion engine.

jdchen
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This was actually quite informative. The results went roughly as I would have expected given the numbers but still very good information.

riblets
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You already know this, but your whiteboard explanations are brilliant! Really clear and well explained!

videogalore
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Awesome vid! I appreciate your data detail and expect no less. Kudos!

jasonsims
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A good informative video as always, but I don't really think you explained the *why* that I was so curious about. Why is the torque curve so different?

JohannesWiberg
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Electric cars feel much faster with that torque, but still not having that exhaust sound is like playing a racing game on mute lol.

backyardchevy
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lots of details, great insights, thanks a lot!!!

klausbrinck
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Went out to my local electric go kart track and had an absolute blast! All that torque from a stand-still and you can feel the little tube chassis twist. It was a quite different compared to gas. Basically it came down to being “civilized” with the throttle coming out of corners in order to make the most of traction. Opposed to trying to keep the revs up in a gas kart. Great insight as always! Thanks for sharing some tidbits from formula E

TomarenaiEraserRain
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Thank you for another great video. With that said, every shift is adding about a half second. This means, to me, that the S2000 had quicker times for every 10MPH increment except for PERHAPS the first 10. I think this video is hard for me to watch and not feel like I'm getting a false impression. I wish you would have used an automatic transmission or quick shifted.

loopduplicate
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Ok, so no showing off around Leafs and Priuses cause I might get trashed. Got it :))

mariuszanfir
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Thanks, you have a great skill for explaining in a way I can enjoy and learn.

able
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You talk and explain very well. Love your videos man!

lucho
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a 1st gen tesla roadster would be a interesting comparison for the s2000. someone loan him one O_O

siamiam
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You are comparing a sports car to a family drive car, and the family car is doing alright.

wyndhamcoffman
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Another great explanatory clip. Thank you. 👍

mobee