When a laptop is actually faster than an RTX 3090 GPU... YIKES!

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Nobody looks for battery life in a desktop replacement laptop. The battery on these things is essentially just a UPS.

Valkross
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I switched our architectural firm's hardware to gaming laptops with docks a little over 8 years ago. Definitely worth the price to give us all flexibility to work away from our desks; home, jobsites, etc. With Framework announcing their swappable GPU module I'm hoping other manufacturers might try to come up with something similar if it sells well.

purebeaux
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The naming definitely isn't great, but still really impressive what a portable machine can do this gen vs last gen desktop.

JarrodsTech
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Even 5 years ago a laptop with that kind of power draw capability would have been 2” thick or more.

rekareaper
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Why does everyone feel like they have to make excuses for buying a laptop??!!

I do video editing, music recording, creation & production, 3D modelling and rendering, graphic design, architectural and construction documents, AI, XR, live streaming, conferencing, desktop sharing, VMs, multi-boot, PCVR... oh and sometimes even AAA games at ludicrous settings all while NOT being chained to a desk. I think people need to start justifying NOT using laptops.

Laptops are the only thing that make sense.

High-Tech-Geek
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Could you incorporate laptop cooling stands in future laptop reviews, or just do laptop cooling stand reviews occasionally?
I'm curious at how effective they are at cooling down a laptop.

John_
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Also Jay was running all this, with the laptop FLAT on the table. Pretty impressive. The thermal designs ASUS, MSi, Alienware, and Lenovo have come a long way. Thermal pastes, Vapor Chambers, multiple fans and chassis design to steer the temperatures into manageable territory.

SgtFinaldo
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My current workstation is a Xeon Thinkpad from 2019. I bought one of these. Part of what sold me was the existence of the 3rd NVME slot, which I wouldn’t have known about without the video. Thanks for the video, Jay.

dannykouder
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Those rear connectors are definitely a win if you're gonna be using this as a desktop replacement, waiting for a torture test of how long the crew can have the laptop sitting on their laps during a benchmark before we reach crew-jmax, a chart would be nice 👍

AstrayPlays
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Rog-Oh. I have an Alienware X17 R1 - replacing my 5 year old Alienware 15 R2 that lets me do pretty much anything I do on my desktop. It is the only power machine I own because my wife is ill and gets chemo a few times a year for her autoimmune disease. This way I can game or create in the living room and still be near by if she needs me. The plus is that my recliner is more comfortable than any desk chair... lol

marksadler
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My son who is currently pursuing a dual major in engineering and computer science has moved to a desktop replacement with a triple monitor setup (2 27" at 1080pand a main 27" at 1440p) and loves the portability mixed with the power to play triple A titles and handle any cad software. The bonus is he can bring it with him to his IT/CAD job that he works full time

justinhenry
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The reason MSI Afterburner doesn't show 4090's usage and temperature, I think is that when you ran MSI Afterburner, the 4090 was in sleep mode so if you wake it up by for example a game and then run MSI Afterburner it can monitor those things.

extraxcess
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constantly having to clean the cooling fins to keep it running 100% should be made so easy that my grandma can do it in a few minutes.
sadly its not in the interest of companies to do so.

TheBwaap
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Jay - Support your reasons
Math Teacher - Show your work

subjective - laptops sucks: low upgrade path. small display. not a true desktop replacement.
reality - laptops are mobile. try to fit your desktop (I MEAN EVERYTHING, power suply, power draw into 1 or 2 inches thick). I mean come on if your gonna bash a laptop travel with a desktop and tell me laptops suck. During travel i game (doom, Civ 6), watch movies (on laptop and streaming). do work. i also bring a travel monitor that is thiner and lighter than my laptop.

i dont see you toting around a full tower with AIO water cooling, 38 inch ultrawide (even multiple) at an airport.

kelrune
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11:30 That CRT is like, "cool flatscreen, bro. Lotsa tech, but you're 30 years away from matching my motion performance"

hitmangfx
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I bought my first laptop last year. 12900HX - 32GB DDR5 and a 3070ti but man its awesome. I have 3 higher-ish end PCs and the laptop keeps up with them anywhere I go.

ooof
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That would be an IDEAL laptop to test a nice variety of laptop cooling solutions to see if there is a benefit single fan ones multi fan ones or if just getting a stand to get it more "clean" airflow under it and so on???

facelessgamer
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The difference between desktop and laptop always comes down to power draw and TDP. Desktops are measured at 500~600 watts of power, laptops are usually in the 90~250 range with the larger ones needing massive power bricks. Any technology that would enable high performance at low wattage, would also enable massive performance gains at high wattage. Portable notebooks are useful, we just need to understand and accept their limitations.

Oh and Clevo's are awesome, amazing platforms that are semi-standardized and possess the ability to have BIOS modifications and graft on a ton of components. Can even swap out GPU's using the MXM formfactor, just be careful to keep cooling and powerdraw within the system specification.

palladin
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I've had a gaming laptop for about six months now and it's, by far, the best purchase I've made. At the same time I upgraded my desktop computer for roughly $2, 500 I bought a $1, 000 gaming laptop (this was about two years of saving up, so don't think I'm just dropping loads of cash for the funsies). I was expecting to spend about 4k on my desktop, but things got cheaper, some deals were made, which left me money for a laptop.

Here's the beauty of a laptop. I can watch movies with my wife on the couch, then if she goes to bed or whatever, I just fire up a game for a half hour or so. That makes a *huge difference* in how much gaming time I get. It sits in my living room, the hub of my home, and in two minutes I'm in a game. And if something comes up, save and close the lid. Done.

If I know I'm going to get a gaming weekend, yeah, straight to the desktop. But if that wasn't an option, I doubt I'd miss a beat. Not everyone's gaming situation is equal, but for me, I'll likely consider a laptop before I upgrade my desktop again (in like, seven years).

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my 2 year old legion 5i laptop with intel i7 and gtx1660ti mobile gets 190fps on mw2 with med settings and 300fps on rocket league with max settings, its probably 900$ now, it cost me 1300$ in 2020. my fav purchase ever, it fell off my car roof on the highway and still gets better performance than any pc or console i ever owned and i move it all around the house so quick and effortlessly, sometimes i game in my bed with it on the built in screen. i love it

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