Was Alcohol Always Forbidden in Islam?

#islam #alcohol #religion

[LetsTalkReligion]

For a good overview of the topic, I recomend Najam Haider's article "Contesting Intoxication:
Early Juristic Debates over the Lawfulness of
Alcoholic Beverages"

[ahmed]

Prohibiting alcohol is undoubtedly one of the best things in Islam. Alcohol actually causes many problems

[BFG]

In Arabic Khamr means cover. Anything that covers the brain (Alcohol, wine, drugs, and Cannabies) is forbidden.

[nawara]

Fun fact: alcohol, (wine) wasn't forbidden immediately, but in stages. The Arabs before Islam drank it alot.
First stage: it was made forbidden to pray while intoxicated.
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا تَقْرَبُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَأَنْتُمْ سُكَارَى حَتَّى تَعْلَمُوا مَا تَقُولُونَ

Second stage: the companions asked about it, and allah revealed:[
يَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ الْخَمْرِ وَالْمَيْسِرِ ۖ قُلْ فِيهِمَا إِثْمٌ كَبِيرٌ وَمَنَافِعُ لِلنَّاسِ وَإِثْمُهُمَا أَكْبَرُ مِن نَّفْعِهِمَا
they question thee about strong drink and game of chance. Say: in both is great sin and (some) utility for men; but the sin of them is greater than their usefulness.

Third stage:
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِنَّمَا الْخَمْرُ وَالْمَيْسِرُ وَالْأَنصَابُ وَالْأَزْلَامُ رِجْسٌ مِّنْ عَمَلِ الشَّيْطَانِ فَاجْتَنِبُوهُ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ (90)
إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ الشَّيْطَانُ أَن يُوقِعَ بَيْنَكُمُ الْعَدَاوَةَ وَالْبَغْضَاءَ فِي الْخَمْرِ وَالْمَيْسِرِ وَيَصُدَّكُمْ عَن ذِكْرِ اللَّهِ وَعَنِ الصَّلَاةِ ۖ فَهَلْ أَنتُم مُّنتَهُونَ (91)

O you who believe! Indeed Khamr (Intoxicants, all kinds of alcoholic drinks), and Maysir (gambling), and Al-Ansab, and Al-Azlam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaitan's (Satan) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful.
Satan seeks only to cast among you enemity and hatred by means of Khamr and Maysir, and to turn you from rememberance of Allah, and from his wordship, then are you done (from khamr, maysir, Ansab, and Azlam)?

[khireddinearmin]

It was narrated from ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
“Every intoxicant is unlawful and whatever causes intoxication in large amounts, a small amount of it is (also) unlawful.”

[gregorygause]

I can remember when I took my Shahada. Brother from several different countries told me to not be judgemental, just have faith in Allah(swt).With them not knowing, just 2yrs before, I had
that "disease" with D&A.
That was over 32 yrs ago.
I've trusted in Allah(swt), and nothing but mostly great things has happened to me.
Subhan Allah
Alhumdulillah
Ameen.

[sardarate]

Abu Musa reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, sent myself and Mu’adh ibn Jabal to Yemen. I said, “O Messenger of Allah, there is a wine in our land prepared from barley known as beer and another wine prepared from honey known as mead.” The Prophet said, “Every intoxicant is unlawful.”

Source: Sahih Muslim 1733

[angela_merkeI]

As much as I like booze, the drinking ban in Islam always was something I liked (even if it makes it impossible for me to find any date wine). Societally speaking, alcohol causes so much more problems than it's worth.

[professionaltrollkilla]

Recovering alcoholic and convert. No alcohol has literally changed my life. Subhan Allah

[kamil-metov]

A follower of the Hanafi madhhab is here. In fact, Abu Hanifa meant those drinks that could theoretically contain alcohol, but which cannot make you drunk. For example, this is a traditional drink for nomadic peoples called kumis, which is made from mare’s milk, or kvass, common in Russia, produced by fermenting bread. None of these drinks can make you drunk, even children drink them.

[kachrachi]

As a muslim, I've been to 50+ countries and never drank alcohol. I don't have any urge for it. The whole booze obsession everywhere I go almost makes me feel like it's a superpower to not want it. I sit with friends in bars with my chocolate shakes lol

[AClockWorkOrange]

i think then the question should be "Did any scholar in Islam permit alchohol" rather than "was it always forbidden" because Islam existed before the Hanafi school of thought as well

[joeblow]

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[Gazto]

I am not muslim but actually despise the insistance of other people to drink alcohol.

[rayhanplayz]

It's so nice to see all of these people who aren't Muslim be so respectful about islam

[camerong]

That’s why you need to learn Arabic to learn where the word “khamr” comes from. In Arabic it’s very clear and obvious that it applies to any type of alcohol that “covers” your intellect and senses, not just grape wine.

[Zulkak]

To be honest, the thing that makes alcohol haram, the intoxication, is what makes people drink it.

[mr.m]

Two points to mention here:
1- whatever makes you intoxicated (even if you drink a little where you don't get drunk) is automatically haram (booze, weed, drugs)
2- 1st verse that came down regarding alcohol came to say that it had benefits and negatives, and the negatives are more, 2nd verse was to not approach prayer while drunk, 3rd verse was to not drink at all.


Regarding hanafi, nearly all people in that school believe that all kinds of booze are haram.

[AlamBarzakh]

during the Isra and Mi'raj (the Night Journey) of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), the following occurred:

When the Prophet reached the second heaven, the angel Jibreel (Gabriel) presented him with a choice between two vessels - one containing milk and the other wine. The Prophet chose the vessel with milk. Jibreel then said to him: "You have chosen the Fitrah (natural instinct). Had you chosen the wine, your nation would have gone astray."[3][4]

This event is narrated in several authentic hadith (sayings of the Prophet). It demonstrates the Prophet's sound judgment and his preference for what is pure and wholesome, over what is intoxicating and harmful. By choosing the milk, the Prophet showed his commitment to the natural disposition (Fitrah) towards goodness that Allah has instilled in human beings. Bukhari

[dipsjawish]

"ما أسْكرَ كثيرُهُ فقليلُهُ حرامٌ"