Arch User Reacts To Linus Tech Tips Linux Challenge Pt 1

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I've been waiting for the Linus Tech Tips Linux challenge to hit YouTube for a very long time and it's finally here but it's not without it's flaws so I thought I'd be fun to add a little bit of extra context and correct some of the things Linus and Luke said.

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0:00 Introduction
1:21 Choosing A Distro
5:07 Linus' Choice
5:56 Luke's Crazy Choice
6:52 Linus' Experience
12:57 Luke's Experience
15:37 Linus' Final Point
16:45 Conclusion

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I said that driver info screen with open source and installed was a KDE app, it's actually made for Manjaro but that doesn't change it being a weird layout

BrodieRobertson
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About the contradiction part : I think Linus is right here. It's an article about Linux distros for gamers and gaming IS a beginner operation. So if setting up games is a hassle, it by definition is not 'beginner friendly'.
Loved your commentary btw!

williamfowl
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2:58 "You can have things that are easy in one way, but then are a hassle in others".
Yes, but remember, the article is about best linux distros FOR GAMING. If gaming is a hassle to get set up, it's not "very beginner friendly" for a gamer. It's like an article for "best foods for nut allergy sufferers" saying a particular food is "Super healthy" and "really delicious" but also "contains traces of nuts". It doesn't matter what other areas it's really good in, if it isn't suitable in the main one you're wanting out of it.

lukehb
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12:34 it's actually not KDE's fault but Manjaro's. Manjaro devs are the ones that wrote this KCM. KDE never has such confusingly named columns with checkboxes to denote if it's yes/no.

potatogod
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I see a lot of people make that case that it is at least “partially” Linus’ fault for not reading the message, but let’s me real: you should not have to be aware of and then research a system-level bug before installing something as trivial as Steam. Even if he did read the message, what is he supposed to do to proceed? If a show-stopping bug ships with “stable” software, a first-time user is probably not going to do the legwork to fix it or wait for the devs to, they’re going to just move on. Yeah sure if you’re doing things like patching binaries, then you could expect things could go terribly wrong, but this is Steam. Yeah it’s fairly complex to get all those dependencies installed to get full 3D games functioning, but an end-user is going to be interested in doing the things they’re used to, and unwittingly nuking your whole desktop when you’re just trying to play some games is going to create a very bad impression that’s not likely to be reversed maybe ever.

Luna-yzgr
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I actually nuked my system in the exact same way when I was a new Ubuntu user way back in the day. I had no idea typing that was a warning. And even had I read through everything, I'd have had no idea what any of it meant at that time.

wizitchizit
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Linus didn't just nuke pop on his pc he actually nuked system 76😂
I mean just think about it. Imagin a giant tech channel uses ur distro for steam and u shipped steam with that massive bug.
I feel bad for pop os cause it was my first distro and it has a special place in my heart.

abbasnosrat
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The bug in PopOS is actually hilarious. I can only imagine how many people messed up their systems because of this

mario
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I’ve been enjoying Linux youtubers reacting to LTT. Though I don’t really care for mass adoption of desktop Linux it’s still nice to see people exploring

crazychicken
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I feel bad for the Pop guys. Terrible time to run into a bug with a user not remotely equipped to handle it.

tireseas
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What do you mean "mistakes that shouldn't been included". The whole point of this challenge is for them to interact as the new users they are, to make mistakes and document them. If they go and edit the (some) mistakes out, as silly as some may think they are, we wouldn't be getting their honest review.

For example, Linus killing PoP!_OS happened because he didn't carefully read/understand what he was doing. And he even went ahead into the terminal, got the same warning, and even typed a big confirmation text which was there to prevent users from accidentally breaking the system. Anybody who knows a bit about Linux would just say "Oh! This is bugged and trying to get rid of gnome?! I'll just get the flatpak version, the apt installer is obviously broken". The fun thing is, the solution to his issue was a combo box away by changing the source of installation for Steam in the store. But Linus doesn't know that, and neither would a whole bunch first comers to Linux. What happened to him, can easily happen to some one else and that is the whole point of this challenge.

JavierZavaletaVirasoro
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Great video! I love the subtle humor and objective feedback on the video. Good stuff :)

lordofenron
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Linus had the same issue as me with pop os i had to completely reinstall my whole OS cuz the update nuked my system by it breaking core dependency’s making half if all my apps unuseable

tux_the_astronaut
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7:29 "If you accidentally pick the wrong drive, things are gonna go bad". This is so true, speaking from experience XD. Bricked my Windows install with fdisk while trying to install Arch leaving me with a completely broken system (two broken systems to be exact).

kleysley
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7:25 My very first experience trying to commit to Manjaro... Always double check your drives, kids!
Didn't realize what drive is was until I had already installed a bunch of games on it.

AQDuck
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3 out of 6. Now I need DT, Luke and Kenny's reactions.

okamiboi
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oh nice you finally did talk about the actually video, ets hope that video opens the eyes of the distros that wish to be user friendly.

Maebbie
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12:46 That ISN'T even BY KDE AT ALL, that's all on Manjaro.

ThatLinuxDude
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7:10 It was especially good that he removed the SSD. Ubuntu has had a bug since 2014, still there in 20.10, that writes the bootloader to the first efi partition, regardless which efi partition you choose. If pop has inherited the bug he could have fried his windows bootloader, unless he knew that he needs to remove flags from the other drives.

nilssab
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I watched 1 recommended Linus Linux video reaction and now I'm being flooded with reaction videos from Linux YouTube channels.

It's great!

Flynnsomething