TOO MUCH JUNK!! (Seven Deadly TCG Sins #6)

A long video a long-time coming! There are a lot of Trading Card Games out there that think that bigger is better! That by including a lot of components or working the cards around the map are the way to a better game experience! But why do these games keep failing?

[hmaster]

"are they supposed to pack up their entire entertainment center"
The fighting game community would like to know your location.

[chronovac]

The most successful "board game tcgs" that exist, exist in a video game format primarily. I remember that the Dungeon Dice Monsters GBA game got a good bit of traction and is still considered one of the best Yugioh games released. As is Yugioh: Duelists of the Roses which is about moving cards around a board. I thing the big thing is that, like you said, they gained traction because they were a one and done thing and self-contained, being a video game and all.

[TheDuelLogs]

I love this series! Do more plz and ty

[firekram]

"Cries in never seeing a Yugioh duel terminal"

[redwolfmatt]

dungeon dice monsters was a MASTERPIECE and it is a down right TRAGEDY that it flopped so hard. i miss that game

[ghrochi]

Funny story as a kid me and my dad played ygo together. I saw the dungeon dice episodes then saw them in the store. My father ever wise said “son I promise no one will have one and they’ll stop making them.” He bought me more ygo cards instead. Boy was he right.

[ArmadilloAl]

"Once Magic Online came out, Eye of Judgment was doomed"


Magic Online came out a full six years *before* Eye of Judgment, in 2001. Eye of Judgment was doomed not from the start, but well before the start.

[Hyperactive_Gremlin]

Heh, well jokes on you! My card shop has a dual terminal! The machine doesn’t work but, well that’s not the point!

[adriannaranjo]

Man that Redekai "duel disk/unfolding box" actually looks cool. Imagine if they released that instead of those 3 useless pieces of plastic

[chrismiller]

My friends and I honestly love dungeon dice monsters. We even made homemade figures and printed copies of all the cards from online images. It is definitely different from the tcg but it is a blast to play

[EdBurke]

There's one issue with "Skill Challenge" games that (sadly) wasn't addressed here and is a big reason games like Magic have avoided such things since the days of Chaos Orb.
Players with disabilities.
Skill challenge games exclude people with disabilities by their very nature.

[philliplinne]

"It also can't be a thing where we like step aside to play something else" *Plays marbles with bakugan*
"We don't want something that keeps the opponent waiting" *Struggles to close krakelios ultra for 20min*

[laynegrey]

“$669”
That’s ridiculous, what the f-
“Co-developed... Wizards of the Coast”
Oh, carry on then.

[brittanynguyen]

What’s ironic about Bakugan is...

They suck at distributing cards for a trading *card* game. It’s usually the game pieces, but you can easily waltz on over to AP the nearest Walmart or Target and buy enough for a basic game, but not the actual trading card game.

Now you CAN order them online. Just pay 100 bucks for a single pack. Yeah.

[hollyannabobanna]

"And i dont even wanna start on the doom board game."
Dark souls board game looms in background menacingly

[soijinruiz]

One thing to note is that Eye of Judgement got a fully digital version, a PSP with the same game and mechanics, so if you wanted to play the game, you could just pick that up cheaper and not have to worry about the card cost.

[someperson]

To be fair, dungeon dice monsters was a board game more than a card game

[dolanking]

I love this series, I'm glad we got another upload 💗

[Squirt]

To be fair with Keyforge we used dice to track aember, damage, and the various buffs. We also positioned cards differently for the various status effects. Now I know it’s not official to use dice but FFG does allow you to use different custom things to track that stuff. So when I play Keyforge with people at work we usually just bring our decks and the dice that usually come with Pokémon elite boxes. So in retrospect you only need to do the one deck buy in and have a few dice lying around. That’s how we play it and get newcomers into it cause they only have like a 12 dollar buy in. Now I do have starter sets and agree it’s a little bit easier but I hate bringing components into work so I mostly play with just dice. Also with the newer sets with new mechanics we had to improvise a bit but we make it work with just a deck and dice. I do agree though the wording should be phrased differently but it is totally possible to enjoy Keyforge with the one deck. That’s how I sell em to newcomers that see us playing and wanna try it. But anyway love this series and another great video! Look forward to the next.

[Sleepy]

I kinda expected you to mention Yugioh's "Master Rule 4" at some point since the game made placement important since the introduction of Link Monsters. Though Yugioh has an alternative to requiring the playmat to have the layout of it all: Instead you just put a "Field Center" and from there it should be sorta easy to tell where each card is supposed to be at (and that's kinda intriguing considering you have 5 rows and 5 columns in this board not counting the Field Spell Zone).