The Open Forum | Episode 2

Episode 2 of 'The Open Forum' where Christians are invited to join the discussion with our panelists Hamza, Abbas, Nazam, Sadat & Imran. Guests will be invited on a first come first serve basis. Please note we can only have a maximum of 10 panelists (including efdawah panelists) at any one time.
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[efdawahfan]

Love this brothers perfect team massAllah

[freeman]

Mashaa ALLAH! May ALLAH bless all thr brothers involved in EFDawah! Amine!

[navm]

Thoroughly enjoyed this binged watched part1 n part2 .. the brothers masha allah are doin great service to our ummah and other ppl of other faiths

[zainababdulaziz]

MashaAllah. Jazakallah khair to the panelist. Guys, make sincere dua for the people affected by floods in Malaysia. May Allah give them sabr and strength. Amin. 🤍

[imammamunu]

Thank you brother Sadat for your insightful thought as always. May Allah bless all the brothers.

[abdulazizmanaf]

Adam when u reject the existence of Moses your outlook of analysing comparative religion is seriously flawed n biased!

[reesecane]

Adam works with scholars but confuses "version" and "translation" of the Bible?
I say it's deliberate. Whatever they have to do to retain their man-worshipping theology.

[abdussabahatchowdhury]

Rafael: Exactly
Hamza: what do you mean by exactly! It doesn't make any sense!
Rafael: Exactly
This just sums up Rafael's argument or 🤣🤣🤣
Thus just made my day! What a troll!

[slsa]

السلام وعليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Adam is too smart to not know that he has blinders on for the Bible. May Allah take off the blinders. آمين

[apeng]

Islam is the only one and true deen for mandkind. We have to make wise decision in this life.

[Tislyfe]

So in the first couple of minutes Frank basically admits that whatever is happening in the churches is NOT taught by jesus. I just dont understand exactly which 'teachings' xtianity has?

[freeman]

May ALLAH reward brother Sadat! Amine!

[esrefcelebi]

02:22:00 to the fig tree 'answering problematic' :

Here is the footnote in NET bible:

tn Grk “And answering, he said to it.” The participle ἀποκριθείς (apokriqeis) is redundant and has not been translated.

So it has been in the Greek original.

[aboomohammad]

Raphael is deluded. He is a typical christian. Make excuse for the bible. But he would never make the same excuse for the quan and prophet muhammad saws

[tawAAkul]

According to Rafael if something doesn't make sense you make up whatever you want for it to make sense despite the text and narrative saying otherwise🤔

[shohorabahamed]

Hereafter I will of course fast forward Frank’s sessions. It’s absolutely a waste of time.

[zaidshaikh]

"Hamza's critical analysis of character of Prophet Mohammad" argument:

1. Was prophet Mohammad a liar?

=) Human beings lie due to their motives. If there is no motive why should a person lie. He was known as truthful and trustworthy before claiming prophethood. People used to keep their bailment with prophet Muhammad pbuh. Because they knew that this person will never cheat. When two tribes went in conflict, they used to call prophet for making a decision. What was the emergency to lie after spending 40 years of his life. Let us analyse all the possible motives.

Money: We know that prophet Mohammad pbuh was married to richest women in Mecca. After claiming prophethood, he became the poorest in the city. His wife Aisha RA narrates that for 40 days there would be no food to eat except dates.He was offered too much money and status by the pagans to stop preaching the message but he denied it by saying "Even if u keep sun in my one hand and the moon on the other, even then I won't stop preaching this message of truth" . And by the way inventing a religion is the last thing that a person will think to earn money🤑😂

Fame : fame without money and luxury is useless. After claiming to be a prophet, he and his companions had to face oppression and severe torture in Mecca. Due to which they had to migrate to Madinah. Even there they were attacked by the mushriks of Mecca several times. What kind of motive is that and why would a person spend his whole life to gain such a fame? 🙄

Women : Prophet got married first at the age of 25 with a widdow who was 15 years elder to him. All the marriages that he did were non virgins except one. He also commanded women to cover their body after maturity. Will a man with lust do that? Also he prohibited illegal sex. People believed he was a prophet and he could have easily allowed that. Creating a new religion for women is the last thing a person can do🤣

Here we exhaust all the major motives of Prophet being a liar.

2.Was prophet Muhammad crazy?

=) For a non Muslim's perspective this claim may have a stand. But being a Muslim I can only laugh at such a claim.
If this claim is true that means 120k companions was following a crazy man.
If this is true then 2 billion people on the earth are supporting a crazy man's theology. Can a crazy, illiterate man create a book which has no contradiction and errors in it, has grammatical miracles, has true prophesies, has guidence in every aspect of life such as family, governance, marriage, divorce, defence, morals and all the social issues u can think of . Answer is

3.Was prophet Muhammad deceived and misguided by Satan?

=) The only people who make this claim r the Christians. The first question you should ask to yourself is what is the need for Satan to kam and miss guide people who were pagans and worshipping 360 idols? What need does the Satan faced to bring them to worship one true God?
The Christians at this moment claim that
satan wanted you not to believe in Jesus's divinity and sacrifice. But wait a moment, those pagan arabs did not believe in Jesus's divinity and sacrifice even before. And according to Jesus, Satan can't curse himself or can't destroy his kingdom. Every tym Muslims start to read the quran or starts a good action, it is recommended that he should take refuge from the acursed Satan.
I think Satan want u to curse jesus and Paul does that😇

4. After exhausting all the possibilities, we r left with him pbuh being truthful.

[shohorabahamed]

Frank seems like a nice guy. But it’s obvious he is making up answers on the go. He is not honest. He is also making up excuses and calling them either symbolic or metaphorical when under scrutiny. Thus, he is also a troll. And absolutely dishonest. Peace.

[noorudeenaliyar]

That guy wants everybody to keep a blinker on our eyes and just believe it like him😙

[Mirror_Holder]

2:11:59 Abbas lost Rafael when he said " exactly my point" 😂