The Open Forum Episode 72

Episode 72 of 'The Open Forum' where Christians, Atheists are invited to join the discussion. Guests will be invited on a first come first serve basis. Please note we can only have a maximum of 10 panelists (including efdawah panelists) at any one time.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
01:05 - EF Dawah Panel join: Format of the Stream
04:23 - Frank/Eng (Christian) joins
05:02 - Claim about God deceiving people in Islam
08:26 - Scrutinizing Frank on God deceiving people
15:15 - Refuting the claim: God deceiving in the Bible
31:00 - Exposing the media's lies on Amsterdam
35:04 - Hypocrisy & deception of the western media
40:27 - Problems with the Christian Theology
43:53 - The Truth about Christian Rule
49:06 - Roy (Christian) joins
49:33 - Claim of early christians' belief about Jesus
52:28 - Issues with Roy's claims about Revelation
58:32 - Debunking the beliefs of Christianity
1:13:21 - Contradictions in the Gospels
1:22:11 - Roy's claims about Christianity & Islam
1:23:40 - Analysis & Refutation of Roy's claims
1:43:06 - Von (Christian) joins
1:44:27 - Claim about God sacrificing Jesus'
1:47:33 - Issues with Von's claim about the sacrifice
2:10:27 - Secular (Ex-Muslim) joins
2:11:26 - Scrutinizing the beliefs of Secular
2:13:07 - Claims about a Hadith in Sahih Muslim
2:14:21 - Debunking the claims about the hadith
2:31:35 - Context behind the hadith
2:38:04 - Refutation of Secular's claims
2:58:24 - Problems with Secular's claims
3:03:29 - Response to the claim about the hadith
3:12:51 - Review of the discussion with Secular
3:16:57 - Common (Christian) joins
3:18:17 - Discourse on the Unreliability of the Bible
3:20:44 - Discussion on Tawhid vs Trinity
3:33:19 - Salvation before the incarnation
3:39:15 - Issues with Salvation in Christianity
3:45:10 - Comparing the Abrahamic religions
3:48:39 - The Concept of Salvation in Islam
3:52:00 - Dawah to Common
3:59:38 - Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up

[asadullahsaaid]

*Timestamps:*
00:00 - Intro
01:05 - EF Dawah Panel join: Format of the Stream
04:23 - *Frank/Eng (Christian) joins*
05:02 - Claim about God deceiving people in Islam
08:26 - Scrutinizing Frank on God deceiving people
15:15 - Refuting the claim: God deceiving in the Bible
31:00 - Exposing the media's lies on Amsterdam
35:04 - Hypocrisy & deception of the western media
40:27 - Problems with the Christian Theology
43:53 - The Truth about Christian Rule
49:06 - *Roy (Christian) joins*
49:33 - Claim of early christians' belief about Jesus
52:28 - Issues with Roy's claims about Revelation
58:32 - Debunking the beliefs of Christianity
1:13:21 - Contradictions in the Gospels
1:22:11 - Roy's claims about Christianity & Islam
1:23:40 - Analysis & Refutation of Roy's claims
1:43:06 - *Von (Christian) joins*
1:44:27 - Claim about God sacrificing Jesus'
1:47:33 - Issues with Von's claim about the sacrifice
2:10:27 - *Secular (Ex-Muslim) joins*
2:11:26 - Scrutinizing the beliefs of Secular
2:13:07 - Claims about a Hadith in Sahih Muslim
2:14:21 - Debunking the claims about the hadith
2:31:35 - Context behind the hadith
2:38:04 - Refutation of Secular's claims
2:58:24 - Problems with Secular's claims
3:03:29 - Response to the claim about the hadith
3:12:51 - Review of the discussion with Secular
3:16:57 - *Common (Christian) joins*
3:18:17 - Discourse on the Unreliability of the Bible
3:20:44 - Discussion on Tawhid vs Trinity
3:33:19 - Salvation before the incarnation
3:39:15 - Issues with Salvation in Christianity
3:45:10 - Comparing the Abrahamic religions
3:48:39 - The Concept of Salvation in Islam
3:52:00 - Dawah to Common
3:59:38 - Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up

[torontoyes]

As a convert, I have always understood the principles, but I do appreciate the details of those events and the history that was discussed. It is strange that people are so willing to overlook the reality of who the muslims are, and how Islam implemented justice, humanity and righteousness in a practical way.

[Yalla]

Brothers JazakAllah for the segment on the secularist humanist. I had questions in my mind and was unable to find clear answers from brothers in Pakistan.

You gave all the exact points that I was thinking could possibly be true and cleared my shubhaat.

May Allah bless you both for the efforts you are making.

[harisa]

Salaam! Bro Imran was on fire this stream! MashAllah! Such powerful statements when he said “he doesn’t believe in a God who can’t forgive, !” love you for the sake of ﷲ

[shahzadrasool]

Wow!! Today Br. Imran is on fire 😎 .... 😅

[homtanks]

JazakAllah'u khairan brothers, may Allah grant you Jannah 🤲🏻

[Just_logic]

When I see Frank, the first thing comes to my mind is”Now what”?

[HussainFahmy]

*_Masha'Allah, a brilliant stream. Hopefully, there are short clips to share. Barak'Allah feekom._

[fayezakamal]

The lack of logic is astounding. Word salad ! 😂 May Allah guide us all ❤

[shahzadrasool]

Bro. Imran absolutely shattered the false premise Frank put forward.!! 😂

That's enough for people like Frank to realise Gospels are not word of God.

[Yalla]

It is not the eyes that are blind but the hearts.

[theDayOfAccount]

The lengths christians go to convince themselves the bible is the word of God is shocking.

[cheeti]

Abbas & Imran~ ACCOLADES & ADMIRATION for you both! WhaT a delightful treat to listen to you
both 🪻I COMMEND your Patience & Endurance for listening to rock-headed morons with the unbelievable calmness & responding with even greater serenity and composure 🌷
Your Politeness & kindness is remarkable💐
On a lighter note, , , your resemblance to each other is astonishing 🙂

[candicezerafa]

Keep up the beautiful strong work brother's الله اكبر ماشاء الله ❤☝️❤️ 🇵🇸❤🇮🇷⏳️📯⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️

[genkskaba]

Roy was a cop for all of three years... so he knows!

[theislamicfirewall]

I am convinced Frank is a sleeper Muslim agent by now working to destroying Christianity from within .. no one can be this bad and dishonest at defending Christianity 😂😂😂

[ottie]

Ya know, I have been watching the Open Forum streams since the beginning and today, completely randomly YouTube autoplay started playing the Gladiator soundtrack out of left field and I NEVER KNEW hahaha. Masha’Allah.

[suitcasesocks]

Isn't secular humanist the guy who went on the muslim lantern a while back claiming to be a Hafidh?

[Naushad]

Did we ask Securlar Humanist how old he is? He seems deeply sophomoric. Also he's plainly a liar.

He said this verse shook him so deeply that he left his religion, but he doesn't remember anything about it?

Oh wow. He left Islam, not because of anything he actually understands in the Quran, but because of a TV show.

[klatenist]

Alhamdulillah Roy was not a policeman for long.