The Open Forum Episode 68

Episode 68 of 'The Open Forum' where Christians, Atheists are invited to join the discussion. Guests will be invited on a first come first serve basis. Please note we can only have a maximum of 10 panelists (including efdawah panelists) at any one time.

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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
01:03 - EF Dawah Panel join: Format of the Stream
02:06 - Scrutinizing 1 John 5:7 as a Fabrication
10:33 - Addressing & Inviting Christians
13:05 - Proving the addition of 1 John 5:17 to the Bible
23:55 - Refuting the christian claims about the Bible
28:48 - Exposing the Truth about Christians
30:20 - Lack of Forgiveness & Mercy in Christianity
41:11 - Here (Christian) joins: Discussing the Trinity
43:03 - Discourse on the meaning of "Echad"
48:50 - The double-slit experiment proves the Trinity?
1:00:15 - Discussing the duality of particles
1:03:28 - Debunking the arguments of Adam
1:19:10 - William (Christian) joins: Shares his views
1:23:07 - Discussing Christian beliefs & scholarship
1:29:42 - Differing beliefs within Christianity
1:38:52 - Examining William's belief about the Bible
1:42:33 - Analysing the reliability of biblical manuscripts
1:50:26 - Sacred name of God in the New Testament
2:01:36 - Sacred name of God in Exodus 3:14
2:07:18 - Advice to William
2:08:54 - Godhead (Christian) joins
2:09:18 - Addition of 1 John 5:7 in the Bible
2:16:39 - GodHead's argument for 1 John 5:7
2:20:33 - Analysis & Refutation of the argument
2:50:03 - Jim (Christian) joins
2:50:55 - St. Augustine's work about the Trinity
2:53:52 - Claims about the church tradition & Protestants
2:56:29 - Discussion on the Trinity & Protestants
3:01:09 - Discourse on the reliability of the Bible
3:05:01 - Hierarchy & use of language in churches
3:07:18 - Dawah to Jim & Rise of Islam
3:12:20 - Expansion of Islam vs Christianity
3:13:38 - Issues with Christianity & Truth of Islam
3:16:19 - Review of the discussion with Godhead
3:17:29 - Message for the Christians
3:18:55 - Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up

SubhanAllah ❤️💛💙
Magnificent Stream 👍🏻👌🏻
May Allah ﷻ bless you all and reward you for your efforts. 🤲🏻

[asadullahsaaid]

*Timestamps:*
00:00 - Intro
01:03 - EF Dawah Panel join: Format of the Stream
02:06 - Scrutinizing 1 John 5:7 as a Fabrication
10:33 - Addressing & Inviting Christians
13:05 - Proving the addition of 1 John 5:17 to the Bible
23:55 - Refuting the christian claims about the Bible
28:48 - Exposing the Truth about Christians
30:20 - Lack of Forgiveness & Mercy in Christianity
41:11 - *Here (Christian) joins:* Discussing the Trinity
43:03 - Discourse on the meaning of "Echad"
48:50 - The double-slit experiment proves the Trinity?
1:00:15 - Discussing the duality of particles
1:03:28 - Debunking the arguments of Adam
1:19:10 - *William (Christian) joins:* Shares his views
1:23:07 - Discussing Christian beliefs & scholarship
1:29:42 - Differing beliefs within Christianity
1:38:52 - Examining William's belief about the Bible
1:42:33 - Analysing the reliability of biblical manuscripts
1:50:26 - Sacred name of God in the New Testament
2:01:36 - Sacred name of God in Exodus 3:14
2:07:18 - Advice to William
2:08:54 - *Godhead (Christian) joins*
2:09:18 - Addition of 1 John 5:7 in the Bible
2:16:39 - GodHead's argument for 1 John 5:7
2:20:33 - Analysis & Refutation of the argument
2:50:03 - *Jim (Christian) joins*
2:50:55 - St. Augustine's work about the Trinity
2:53:52 - Claims about the church tradition & Protestants
2:56:29 - Discussion on the Trinity & Protestants
3:01:09 - Discourse on the reliability of the Bible
3:05:01 - Hierarchy & use of language in churches
3:07:18 - Dawah to Jim & Rise of Islam
3:12:20 - Expansion of Islam vs Christianity
3:13:38 - Issues with Christianity & Truth of Islam
3:16:19 - Review of the discussion with Godhead
3:17:29 - Message for the Christians
3:18:55 - Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up

SubhanAllah ❤️💛💙
Magnificent Stream 👍🏻👌🏻
_May Allah ﷻ bless you all and reward you for your efforts._ 🤲🏻

[GaryMillerRC]

Fantastic introduction by Imran, and great work to the both of you.

[hamayoonmirza]

Masha allah. Brothers never seem to disappoint.. what a schooling session of the confused, cocky and desperate trinitarian that wishes to use quantum mechanics to try to prove his falsehood.. what a bankrupt set of ideas.. alhumdulillah for the work you brothers do and the way in which you are able to easily dismantle these arguments.

[ahmedabdelraheem]

So glad for seeing brother Ijaz outside in nice weather, May Allah bless you with health and wellness more, and reward you all for your efforts

[JesusisaMuslim]

The 'Slave Bible' was a highly edited Bible produced in 1807 in London for use by African slaves. Two are held in the United Kingdom, and one is currently on view at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C.

[enigma]

Beautiful the way brother Imran dismantles bogus claims

[mrlesta]

The "god head trinity " guy who had previously told Abbas he would bring him proof of an early manuscript containing the Johanine comma completley and utterly failed to bring ONE evidence instead he managed to blag and bluff and eventually acted petulant and immature

[JesusisaMuslim]

When the pagans say “Trinity is a mystery”, then you know they are ‘trained and programmed’ to use that as an excuse to not explain it.

[odeebob]

Truth has emerged and falsehood has vanished

[alimelmalak]

It seems that Mr "William Wilkinson" in this Episode 68 appeared also as Mr "Prima Scriptura" in 50. Thus, Brother Ijaz's repeated inquiries about belief are quite understandable. Now, whereas Mr Prima Scriptura could not agree on the meaning of corruption, Mr William Wilkinson is of the opinion that "we do not have the inerrant original text, but the errant copies are reliable and consistent." Despite the passage of time, old beliefs are hard to change.

[aafuuu]

According to Adam if the father and jesus are quantom locked, then they share the same effects and experiences. Hence when jesus dies, the father dies according to him 👀

[deen-al-afriqi]

"Here I am..." is a perfect example of dunning-kruger swagger. Knowing very little about anything yet speaking like an expert. So embarrassing.

[JesusisaMuslim]

World famous author, Leo Tolstoy said:

“Muhammad has always been standing higher than the Christianity. He does not consider god as a human being and never makes himself equal to God. Muslims worship nothing except God and Muhammad is his Messenger. There is no any mystery and secret in it. The law of the Qur’an will prevail in the world because it agrees with reason and wisdom. I have come to understand that humanity needs only a Divine law to establish the truth and destroy falsehood. Islamic law will encompass the entire world because it is consistent with reason and agrees with wisdom and justice.”

[adiletsultaniyarov]

Mashalla with our Brothers like uncle Imran, uncle Abbas and Bro Ijaz, no chance!!! May Allah keep you firm Inshallah!!! Really great work!!! Alhamdullilah!!!

[theDayOfAccount]

The "here I am lord send me guy" has had a bit too much ayahuasca.

[JesusisaMuslim]

Trinity is ancient paganism.

Egyptian Trinity
Father Osiris, mother Isis and son Horus

Hindu Trinity
Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva

Christian Trinity
Father, son Jesus and Holy Spirit

"If Paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by Paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians . . . was changed, by the Church of Rome, into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity. Many of the pagan tenets, invented by the Egyptians and idealized by Plato, were retained as being worthy of belief."

Edward Gibbon's History of Christianity.

[truthseeker]

Adam keeps getting humiliated and just asks for more. The embarrassment. He should probably delete all his socials and lay low for a while.

[samdeur]

After the fiasco of searching for a Hebrew word in an English dictionary 😂 I’m now going to listen how this Adam fellow (probably not his real name) is going to explain the trinity using quantum mechanics this is going to be good 😂 I’m ready for it Latin in bed can’t sleep it’s late need a bit of nonsense to fall asleep 😂

[nutzhazel]

The amount of the mental gymnastic the Christians had to go through just to establish their gods are One is mind boggling, that's why trinitism and polytheism never makes sense when it comes to The Almighty Creator.

[hamzae]

Haha perhaps the calmest dawah channel around and John says they are behaving badly, says alot that really