BOTH engines failed?! Ryanair go-around gone WRONG

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On the morning of November 10th, 2008, a Ryanair 737-800 crash landed at Rome’s Ciampino airport in Italy. The Captain came under scrutiny for trying to go-around, but he defended his decision. What should he have done? This video investigates.

This video uses findings from the official accident report to recreate the series of events that led to the crash.

Background music (all licensed through Epidemic Sound):
Displaced - Robert Ruth
Risk-takers United - Claude Signet
Leave no stone unturned - Dream Cave
Quietly Tense - Marten Moses
Entering multiverse - Christian Andersen

Aircraft simulation
Zibo 737-800 for X-Plane 11

Photos

00:00 Intro
00:36 Flight background
01:25 Descent and landing
02:37 Crash sequence and review
05:06 Aftermath and investigation
07:46 “Startle Effect”

[JavierBonillaC]

The birds are launching their own investigation.

[Kalense]

When the captain said "on est dedans" he didn't mean "we're within the airport perimeter". It's a very common phrase in vernacular French that if you said it in correct French would be "on est dans la merde", or in English, "we're fucked".

[grahamepigney]

The "startle effect" was one of the things that made the landing in the Hudson so much more remarkable.

Sully and his co-pilot were initially accused of not taking the most appropriate action as simulator tests involved immediate action when the bird-strike occured ignoring any reaction time needed by the pilot/co-pilot to assess the situation.

When the simulations included the time required to assess and deal with the situation the simulations concluded that a forced landing in the Hudson was the only reasonable result.

In other words, you have to be there. Great result for the Ryanair pilots and their training.

[dougaltolan]

If "ahi ahi isn't the correct call out for a wall of birds, wtf is?
86 bird strikes!

[sorosaltgaming]

"Ahi ahi ahi ahi ahi ahi ahi ahi ahi ahi"

ah yes, my favorite go around call out

[sylviaelse]

It would be very easy to criticise from one's armchair, but absent training on what to do in the specific situation, I don't see how one can expect anyone to take the optimum path when it requires a split second decision. Aviation safety improves by increments. This is one of them. Fortunately, no one died while the lesson was learnt.

[brendadryden]

The majority of the time, a go around is much better than forcing an unstable landing. I don't see how they can blame the captain since he made the go around decision based on his training.

[Will-thegrumpysoutherner]

When i was training to drive a bus we were taught that if an animal jumps out in front you are to run it over & not to try to brake or swerve.
In reality though your first response is to try to avoid running anything over so i totally understand the “startle effect”

[tylerbrass]

This was great, I dont blame the pilots on this one. I think they did great, in what must have been a very stressful situation, they managed to get all their passengers off alive, with only some minor injuries.

The approach wasn't stabilized before the bird strike, they were already high, and I imagine they already had the possibility of a go around in their minds. Then, sudden bird strike, further destabilizing the approach, and their training tells them "When in doubt, go around".

Then, to identify the loss of thrust, and still manage to bring it back onto the runway, without an overrun (Which I am sure the extra drag from the dragging engine facilitated, but still).

Just really impressive action under pressure, and I commend them for it.
Great video Green Dot Aviation, I am sooo glad that you cover lesser known incidents, but I would love your take on the well known incidents/crashes as well! Keep it up bro!

[TreasuresonRPM]

I thought it looked like a normal Ryanair landing lol Enough with the jokes, great job with the video man! I am glad to have discovered your channel.

[unknownname]

I appreciate the captain's actions.

[oldetymebiker]

The pilot was promoted to chief pilot after finally finding landing gear limits on old planes, an investigation Ryan Air have aggressively been conducting for decades.

[willshedo]

Given on what Ive heard on some real pilots" channels here on YT the captain did what he was trained for at the time: "in case of any doubt during landing procedure, go around and give yourself time to think over and correct".

[jez]

To be fair, this still was one of Ryanair's softer landings.

[noelmaher]

Valid point, the startle effect...Regardless of training, human nature and scenario will have different and variable

[commerce-usa]

First time encountering the term startle effect. Certainly many people who have driven a car can relate to that. The difference being that we get much more time to react and generally will involve putting far fewer lives in peril. Had never heard of this incident, lots of good wisdom in the report. The captain didn't make the best choice knowing that by the time the engines meaningfully spool, they would already be encountering the flock. That kind of surprised me.

[philipbrit]

If one encounters a bird strike in Rome the trip to ditch in the Irish Sea would be a challenge

[kevinwydler]

Jeju airlines really reminds me of this one

[andrecouture]

Now in the manual: when you get bird strikes, avoid saying aye aye aye 10 times

[hosephanerothe]

My extensive airplane accident investigations experience watching green dot for the last six months allows me to determine that those birds are to blame 👍🏻