The Calvinists - 'Total Depravity' (Lyric Video)

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The Calvinists with their song "Total Depravity"
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This needs to be on Amazon music and a song about the preservation of the saints.

sovereignmercy
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I bet the reformers are rocking to this in heaven while waiting for the resurrection.

gglo
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Gentleman, I am Gen Z. Ive always been in love with rock music, especially with the 70’s-90’s. I will admit that i dont’t know what genre of rock this is😅. Could someone tell me?

herekcampos
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Is there a way to pirchase/download your renditions of the five points?

pokhgr
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Here's the next video, "Unconditional Election", The Calvinists - "Unconditional Election"

devonshirestudio
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there is no way people are this hurt over a calvinist song

Brazilian_Does_Animations
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Calvinism is the closest to the Truth that mankind has ever achieved.

I state this based on my personal experience with God. I was completely dead on my sins. But God called me, and His grace is IRRESISTIBLE. After I realized this fact, I could understand the another four points of TULIP.

danilomenoli
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Alguém faz a legenda para o português!

valdemirpmoreira
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sou catolico mais so gostei da musica, os calvinistas estao errado so a musica é legal

USER-cvgd
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i cant tell if this is a parody or not

justanoob
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Amazing song, but I always picture Eric Cartman doing the vocals

jooper
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If you guys are Christians, then I hate to render your chorus incorrect, but . . . you are no longer totally depraved. ;) haha!

KarisFaith
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That's Beza, not Augustine.

Nice song though ;)

jaccovanderveen
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why does it sound like erik cartman?? lmfao

rafaelpereira
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0:37 - Except that whole thing with the Original Sin.... this line is almost nowhere near true

i.e. - This is deception and should not be viewed

RealJingy
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I don't know how to feel about this, the theology is Heretical, borderline Satanic and Umbiblical, but the music Rocks

tradcat
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I think you really mean this. But you should know that "total depravity" was only a construct of mind from the synod of Dord, held in the Netherlands. Just like the other constructs that came part of the reformed mind-set in T.U.L.I.P.
I am dutch and I am living in this world. Once upon a time, during religious wars in Europe, these kind of dogma's made sense. At least in my country, people would have killed each other if they had not came about. Please, live in this world.

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Ιn Calvinism depravity equals inability. Mankind’s sinful state causes an inability which prevents a person from believing the gospel or responding to God in any way except by rejection and rebellion.

This special definition necessitates both Unconditional Election and Irresistible Grace.

This is a teaching where unregenerate, natural man cannot believe in Jesus no matter how much he hears the preaching of the Gospel (Romans 10:17), no matter how hard the Holy Spirit pricks (John 16:8), no matter how long Jesus knocks (Revelation 3:20), because the Law of the Total Depravity of man cannot be overcome unless the Holy Spirit first regenerates his nature in being made preemptively and unconsciously born again in order to believe.

• The lost man’s inability to seek God does not equal the inability to respond to a God who is actively seeking to save the lost. (Luke 19:10)

• The lost man’s inability to save himself does not equal the inability to respond to God’s gracious and powerful appeal for all the lost to repent and believe. (Col. 1:23)

• The lost man’s inability to attain righteousness by pursuing it through works does not equal the inability to attain righteousness by pursuing it through faith. (Rom. 9:30-32)


Some Calvinist (not all), have brought this doctrine to an unusual conclusion. They have concluded that personal acceptance of the gospel is not necessary to go to Heaven. They feel that if God chose a person to go to Heaven, he will go to Heaven. Following are some quotes concerning this:
• "The gospel is not a means of regeneration. The Gospel is for the man who already has life." (Garrett, Irresistible Grace, p. 1)
• "For us to say that one must hear the gospel in order to be saved for heaven, it would severely limit the Holy One of Israel." (Ellis, The Christian Baptist, April 1993, p. 3)
• "I do not want anyone to think I am selling the gospel short. It has its place in God’s scheme of things." (Keith Ellis, "Does God Perform His Will?" The Christian Baptist, April 1993, p. 11)
• "The gospel makes disciples, but it does not make children of God." (Best, Regeneration, p. 109)
• "God has an elect people and Christ died for them, and they all will be born again and will live in Heaven, all due to His sovereign grace. Many of them will have never heard the gospel." (Garrett, Two Salvations, p. 3)
• "Salvation is NOT dependent upon the gospel of faith. Indeed, it could not be so, for millions of children of God have never heard the gospel preached. Only a very small percentage of humans heard the gospel before they died. Consequently, they did not and could not have had gospel faith." (Tolley, The Christian Baptist, April 1996, p. 4)
• "The Confession, in this section, intends to teach that there are some unevangelized men who are ‘regenerated and saved by Christ through the Spirit’ without ‘the ministry of the written word’ … the regenerated heathen has not yet had Christ presented to him." (Shedds, Calvinism, p. 60)
• "It is not improbable, but some individuals in these unenlightened countries might belong to the secret election of grace, and the habit of faith might be wrought in these." (Zanchius, The Doctrine of Absolute Predestination, p. 104)
• "We do not deny that God can save some even of the adult heathen people if He chooses to do so … we must admit the possibility that by an extraordinary method some few of His elect may be gathered from the unevangelized portion." (Boetnner, Predestination, pp. 119 – 120)
• "Primitive Baptists believe that the scriptures teach that sinners are regenerated, or born again, independent of, or without the gospel as a means." (Garrett, The Purpose of the Gospel, p. 1)
• R.C. Sproul writes: “We do not believe in order to be born again; we are born again in order that we may believe.” (Chosen by God, 72)
But how can one who is “dead in his sins” possibly repent and believe? some Calvinists ask. Isn’t it true that dead people can do nothing and are unable to respond to outside influences?
Such logic, however, is seriously flawed, because it forces more meaning into the _expression, “dead in your trespasses and sins” than was obviously meant by the apostle Paul.
Using such logic, we could just as well conclude that those who are dead in their sins cannot think, breath, speak or hope, since dead people can’t do those things either.

Like all metaphors, there are similarities that can be drawn between physical and spiritual death, but, like all metaphors, there comes a point where similarities turn to dissimilarities.

Paul’s phrase, “dead in your trespasses and sins” expresses the fact that unregenerate man has no relationship with God because of his sins and is void of spiritual life in Christ as well as eternal life.

It does not express the idea of man being incapable of making a choice to repent, just as it obviously does not imply man’s inability to make any other choice, including moral choices.
Acts 28:24-28: Some were convinced by what he said, but others would not believe. 25 They disagreed among themselves and began to leave after Paul had made this final statement: "The Holy Spirit spoke the truth to your forefathers when he said through Isaiah the prophet: 26 " 'Go to this people and say, "You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving." 27 For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.' 28 "Therefore I want you to know that God's salvation has been sent to the Gentiles, and they will listen!"

This passage, which is quoted from the OT several times in the NT, explains that the Jews hearts had GROWN calloused. THEY WEREN'T BORN CALLOUSED. It also clearly explains their abilities had they not become hardened. "OTHERWISE THEY MIGHT SEE." He even goes on to contrast the Gentiles who "WILL LISTEN."

So, not only do Calvinists need to deal with the implications of the passages such as John 3:16 that calls whosoever to come/believe, but they must deal with the explicit passages such as this that clearly reveal man's ability from birth to see, hear, understand and turn to God for healing.
Calvinist like to presume the narrative of Lazarus being raised is meant to be a parallel to soteriology, but without any text that actually makes that claim.

A better parable to illustrate one who was dead and now alive in regard to salvation might be the one Jesus chose.
The story Jesus tells us about the Prodigal Son and his gracious father gives a very clear picture of one who was dead (living in rebellion to the father) and then made alive (Luke 15:24).
Luke 15 – the story of the prodical son. Is the only other passage besides Eph. 2:1 that says we were “dead in sin”. In the story the prodicial son while lost and dead never lost the ability to turn to God and repent. When he came to his senses he returned to his father in repentance and was saved.
It is one thing to teach lost mankind cannot save himself, its another to suggest he can't even respond to God's appeal to be saved.

Does responding to God's appeal to be reconciled EARN or MERIT your salvation? Did the Prodigal son merit the reception of his father on the basis that he chose to return home for help? Does asking someone for forgiveness merit being forgiven?

Calvinists have equated the choice to respond to God's gospel appeal with a meritorious work that somehow earns salvation. This idea is not supported biblically.
A meritorious work of the law is man’s effort to earn his own righteousness, while repentance is admitting you cannot earn it and need help. God, because He is gracious (and for that reason alone), chooses to impute Christ’s righteousness to whosoever repents in faith. Repentance merits nothing.
In Eph.2:1 - Spiritual death should not be misunderstood as referring to the notion of human beings so depraved that they have no capacity to understand and respond to God’s message. In the very context of Ephesians chapter two salvation from spiritual death comes “through faith” (2:8-9).
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God
This verse is so clear that I am amazed at people claiming God saves us first, and then we get faith only as a result of salvation.
The grace is God’s part of the salvation experience. Faith is man’s part.
Notice it says “ through faith” we are saved. We MUST have faith to be saved; otherwise, no one has even been born-again.

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