Schools Have Had It With Google

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Schools have been ditching Google over the past few years. This shift away is especially apparent in Google Classroom but it can also be observed within the Office, email, and Chromebook markets as well. Instead, schools are opting for offerings from Microsoft and sometimes even Apple combined with Canvas, Schoology, or Blackboard. At first, this shift away may be confusing. After all, has the cheapest and most accessible offerings. In fact, this is why they became so popular in the educational system in the first place. But, as schools have become more dependent on technology, they have been more willing to expand their budgets to purchase better tech. Nowadays, technology is no longer an addition to the physical classroom. Instead, virtual classrooms have become front and center with all assignments, quizzes, and tests taking place online. So, schools are becoming more open to the idea of investing in better software solutions and tech. This video explains the evolution of tech and schools and why schools are ditching Google.

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0:00 - Google Education
1:58 - Microsoft Dominates
4:36 - Google Breaks In
7:31 - Google Gets Left Behind
10:12 - The State Of Google

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[ADHJkvsNgsMBbTQe]

The real reason: Google decided to increase prices quite a lot and started charging for things that had been free.

[ballroomdru]

As the tech person in the school I work at, I can tell you that the Chromebooks really don’t last long if kids aren’t careful with them. I have had to put repair tickets in on average of 3-5 per day. Broken screens and headphone jacks that get broken.

[spring-er]

Managing Google services as an admin is horrible. Everything is User based and the Admin has very little control to do things, unlike Microsoft, where an admin can control everything.

[BaldAndCurious]

Ironic that we use Google to find out that schools are ditching Google.

[lyianx]

Our university dropped Google drive soon after we decided to switch to it because they up and jacked up the price on us and freaked out when their "unlimited storage" actually got tested by our users and they pulled a "wait.. we didn't ACTUALLY mean 'unlimited'" move and then set limits.

[pvs]

10:48
I used to be a middle school and high school teacher, including during the pandemic. These kids are NOT good with technology. When I was growing up in the 2000s and early 2010s, we had exposure to rapidly evolving computers and phones that forced us to problem solve and troubleshoot on our own because UX designs weren't as streamlined as they are now. Everything is now too simple that these kids have no clue what to do when procedures or solutions aren't stupidly obvious.

[rarox]

Meanwhile our school was like "Get your own computer scrub.". Funny thing is despite being one of the best privet schools in West Bengal, our school was pretty clueless about how to go about with the online classes situation. Many of us senior students found ourselves volentering to help the teachers with their classes. Basically every teacher selected one of us 12th grade students to set up and manage and admin all of their class. We were given the freedom to choose the platform (We managed to convince them to settle on discord somehow. And I would say Discord is way undersated in the education market.) So basically we people just sat there listening to our teachers tell 6th graders stories while serving as the teacher's personal Alexa....

[scorch]

I would say that schools ditching google was a good thing if it didn't mean turning back to Microsoft. The reason MS has such a dominant position in the corporate sector isn't because the software is amazing, it's because they worked hard to fill schools with their software and ensure that an entire generation grew up learning how to use their software. Well, that in combination with their Embrace Extend Extinguish philosophy...

[nightking]

During my last few years at University, we changed from g suite to office 365. I'm qualified to say it was a massive upgrade.

[TBH_Inc]

Having used both, I have to say while Microsoft is a lot more powerful, Google is a lot more simple and intuitive. So it’s probably better for students, especially younger students like those in elementary/middle school. However, it’s complicated by the fact that a majority of employers use Microsoft, so maybe students should just have to deal with it so they are prepared for the workplace? I used Google all throughout school, and so having to use Microsoft now that I’m working is driving me insane. A lot of the features I use are harder to use because it is crammed with so many other features I don’t use and/or they simply don’t work as well. Maybe after a year or two of usage I’ll be able to close the gap, but man it’s killing me.

[joergsonnenberger]

"Students don't go to the computer lab to learn typing" I find this quote very funny, since in my experience most students can't actually type properly. They couldn't 20 years ago when I was in high school and the situation has not improved in a positive way since then.

[LordGooben]

When I was in school we had MS and then switched to Google, all the students hated it so much and basically revolted they made the switch back.

[flarierza]

This video hit at a good time for me. I was feeling Google's prestige in many areas is starting to decay.

[Yungbull]

My senior year I took a “computer surveys” class because I watching a lot of LTT at the time. Literally every single day we where tasked with fixing Chromebook’s. They break so easily

[confused.cat.]

In my state(Gujarat) in India, from like 9th grade we are taught to install and learn how to use linux on computer(majorly Ubuntu), along with open source softwares like apache office, libre office etc. I think this is a great idea.

[alphadonut]

I’d like to put my two cents and say my school switched from Microsoft to google suite for both high school and college and it was actually a lot better experience for most of us.

It might just depend on the types of schools and students.

[antoniobezerra]

You missed the bit where Google jacked up pricing, and MS bundles everything into 365 now, so it actually became cheaper to go with 365 than G Suite, because you'd get so many more features.
I personally don't like 365, it is bloated with complex features that work poorly, while Google's simplicity leads to a better overall experience. But my uni made the switch from primarily G suite to full on 365 because of the price hike.

[weatheronthes]

I am someone who got to use a whole group of computer based experiences in my education. In elementary school, pretty much every computer was a ThinkPad or ThinkCentre. In kindergarten (which was 2007-2008 for me), there was one computer lab full of old ThinkPads all with slow internet connections, which we used primarily for playing certain educational games from what I remember, and in like 1st grade we had to check the weather online each day. We also had a few old ThinkCentre desktops in the classroom used for less all at once activities.

Then around the middle of 3rd grade, they switched us to a 1:1 device to student ratio, so there was a full cart of newer ThinkPads in each classroom (which the WiFi was often painfully slow to use on) and the computer lab was renovated to newer ThinkCentres, all while keeping the few extra older desktops in each classroom. This is the solution we had for 3rd through 5th grade. We never did any coding projects or anything, but we did certain online learning activities along with writing final papers in Word. We also had demonstrations of Excel and made a few PowerPoint presentations (which I had a lot of fun with actually even outside the classroom).

Then, after 5th grade, I went to a private Christian school right as my county was switching primarily to iPads students take home with them, which in 2013 was not super popular yet from what I remember, but they still use this method today. What I got instead was a complete mess of technology going forward. In 6th grade, we only had a typing class where we used a remote desktop Windows 7 server. Then that server broke by 7th grade and instead of risking using out of support Windows XP computers, they actually put Linux on their older computers, specifically the Edubuntu distro (the education version of Ubuntu with bundled basic education software). This was pretty much my first introduction to Linux and I probably learned more about Linux in that class than the typing and, I kid you not, LibreOffice lessons we had.

During 8th grade, they bought a cart of Chromebooks, but only 1 cart, as the school didn't have enough money for everyone to have one. Around this time they also got the remote desktop server running again, this time with Windows Server 2008 R2, which had horrible screen tearing on the remote desktop client monitors. We mostly used the Chromebooks though outside of our 9th grade computer science class (basically just learning Microsoft Office and some basic Scratch), except when somebody nobody knows for sure messed up the wiring of the server causing it to not work correctly for over a month, while my class was punished with a massive assignment despite not having proof who did it. Apart from that, most of our computer based assignments from this point on were through Google Classroom. However, most of our assignments were still done the old fashioned way, which it was throughout a lot of my schooling career.

[HexCopper]

Another issue with the chrome books was that they only lasted about 2 years before they essentially would crumble to dust. They had practically no resell value and there were too many models to reliably get replacement parts. Leading to cannibalising broken chromebooks until the end of the year amd then a huge cost to repurchase hundreds of newer model chromebooks to start the cycle again

[unclesmrgol]

Be careful what you wish for. My company transitioned to Microsoft for their services (aka "360"), and things break more often, run much slower, and essential business data gets deleted on a time schedule. I think all of this stuff, whether instigated by Google or Microsoft, will come back to haunt those who abandoned their private solutions.