THE STRONGEST ARRANCAR - Who is CIEN GRANZ, The True Zero Espada? | Bleach Discussion

Beware manga spoilers in this video!

In the light novel Spirits Are Forever With You, we meet Cien Granz - a clone of the Espada Szayelaporro, and one of the strongest Arrancar ever. He was the original Zero Espada, and once he returns, he puts up a fight against none other than Zaraki himself! Let's find out more.

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[MrTommo]

What do you think of Cien Granz and his position in the world of Bleach? Could he have defeated Zaraki? Let me know your thoughts!

[Green]

Given Szayelaporro's background, it sounds to me like he was a member of Unit 731, but the writer realised that wouldn't get very far in Japan, so they renamed it as "Alchemist" of "A nation", even though it's very clearly Unit 731. This would also explain why Szayelaporro went to Hell, because the people that were in that unit were some of the most evil people to ever exist.

[CaptainKotetsu]

Real talk, the original Szayaleporro probably had the worst death in all of Bleach. That drug Mayuri gave him was absolutely terrifying.

[ZzigZaGNIN]

the forest of menos being the safest place to be in the blood war arc is pretty funny to me

[manuelacosta]

He's truly among the darker villains of the saga especially with those atrocities committed as a human. It adds to his general sinister nature and deadly willingness to do the worst for knowledge while inflicting suffering. Him ending up in hell and then meeting another end is quite fitting.

[korrafey]

Yami just never felt like a threat at any point after his first appearance. He was humbled by uryu and the punching bag of byakuya and zaraki

[mastertucker]

Shout out to the fact that in novel, the tricks Cien tries to use against Kenpachi includes the whole organ doll thing. Which doesn't work only and solely because Kenpachi's organs are so strong that the tiny doll versions are so strong he can't break them.

Gotta love how consistently OP Kenpachi is in all media, it's beautiful lol.

The hypothetical future of child Cien is so interesting. Even a teen version hundreds of years later would be so incredibly powerful.

[redsteel]

I'll take Cien or Szayel as Espada 0 over Yammy. Yammy is just a let down.

[uraharakisuke]

I'm gonna be honest I didn't expect this video but I'm really happy it exists. Cien and Roka are both pretty cool characters in my opinion

[danielmason]

Given the baskstory of Cien as well as the backstory of Ikomikidomoe, my personal take is that all of this info from the light novels is actually a means of indirectly hyping up Barragan to have been wayyyy stronger than he was portrayed in the main series. Imagine the power that was necessary to keep Cien in line as well as earn respect and caution from Ikomikidomoe who was strong enough to challenge a younger Yamamoto. Baraggan may not have the most reiatsu out of all hollows, but evidently Respira is no joke.

[simmytom]

This was unexpected and this is exactly why I dig your content Tommo!

[dandychiggins]

Espada be like
Barragan: I'm the strongest Espada. I'm the king.
Starrk: No, I'm the strongest Espada. I'm the #1.
Ulquiorra: Actually, I'm the strongest Espada. I have a secret 2nd Release.
Yammy: Dumbasses! I'm the strongest Espada. I'm the #0.
Cien: What braindead oafs. I'm the strongest Espada. I'm the first and real #0.
TYBW Grimmjow: How funny. I'm the strongest Espada. You not seen my feats in TYBW or CFYOW. Go watch my hype-man Clyde to see.
Ikomikidome: What common pests. I'm the strongest Hollow. It took Ichibe sealing me in a sword to stop me.
Aizen: Maybe I should've ranked them alphabetically instead to avoid all these arguments...

[superelite]

When this guy ate his own subordinate and healed himself that was one of the most wild things I’ve seen in bleach

[nikiardo]

Szayel has always been my favourite Espada, not only is his design amazing but his personality and how much it took to bring him down even though he was only number 8 solidified him as one of my favourite characters in Bleach.

[Shelbert]

Ilforte felt like such a throwaway character. It’s crazy to see how much he’s developed as a key character AFTER getting merked by Renji

[rafaelperez]

Its impressive how a Hollow can be so humble as to feel mad respect for the man that pulled off a crazy technique as Mugetsu and talking like she doesn't deserve to wield it herself even in the face that she's surely going to die by recreating that same technique. As if she didnt earned to have it even when she's betting her life to do so.

[certafan]

Personally i find the novels great supplementary material. Narita understands bleach deeply, and it shows in the fights and scenarios he constructs (surely with feedback from Kubo) that so seamlessly fit into the world and lore of bleach. The power scaling so to say of the characters gives the feeling sometimes of fan service but really if you look at bleach as a whole anybody in the TYBW could mud stomp their soul society self, and so characters in the future being significantly stronger than themselves but roughly equal to other characters makes sense. That's just my two cents on it, it's very fun seeing more light novel coverage on this channel. Looking forward to more :)

[salmonthunder]

High quality Bleach discussions. I’m a new fan and these are always very interesting. Thanks for the content.

[Bossu]

Suddenly, I'd love explanation videos from you on all kinds of techniques like Ceros, Kido, Ransotengai, etc. One race per video.

[LeoArmada]

Honestly, Szayelaporro Granz is my favorite espada and one of my favorite villains in bleach, especially after his return in the hell arc, he looks soo cool.