Watch before you buy a washer - New Government Rules Less Water High Efficiency HE

High efficiency, using too little water? HE washing machine  something I use not enough water, here’s some real reviews that everything need to know by real owners with not enough water to clean the clothes problems.
Some manufacturers are saying Bidens new rule would make Americans dirtier, stinkier: manufacturer say.
/Department of Energy last month have sparked concern from some manufacturers and trade associations that fear the new machines could be less effective and more costly for U.S. consumers.

The Department of Energy said the new efficiency standards, which seek to reduce emissions from both washing machines, will save consumers an estimated $3.5 billion annually on energy and water bills. U.S. households will save an estimated $425 in utility bills over the lifespan of the appliances, DOE said.
But I found that they’re assuming these machines will last for 14 years with no maintenance calls, and no replacement cost. I’m not sure where they’re getting their information from but these machines are not lasting that long, especially without expensive appliance repair man maintaining and repairing them.

The Department of Energy said the new efficiency standards, which seek to reduce emissions from both washing machines and refrigerators, will save consumers an estimated $3.5 billion annually on energy and water bills. U.S. households will save an estimated $425 in utility bills over the lifespan of the appliances, DOE said.
But they are not taking into account that these machines aren’t able to do regular size loads and if you’re washing three loads instead of one, you will not save any water or power. 

New DOE efficiency rules could make washing machines more costly and less effective, manufacturers warn.
This is because the technologies to go into the efficiency machines are more expensive and the parts that are in the more expensive when they break. The idea that they will save money in the long run they not be true at all. In fact, I would guess it will be the exact opposite 

Households using new refrigerators and clothes washers will save an estimated $425 on their utility bill over the average life of the appliance with these standards in place is what they are saying, but the reality is, there’s more to the equation than just utility bills. If the appliances cost twice as much and last 1/5 the time you will get more water used and more plastics in the landfills. I know that a lot of people think that appliances are a perfect recycled machine, but they have a lot of plastics and you have to separate them from the metals, this leads to plastics being recycled which recently we have all learned is not as green as we thought. 
Even if we could perfectly recycle him, you still have to account for the energy it takes to get the metal out the ground and produce the plastics the factories it takes to run to make the machines and the delivery and other vehicles that will have to run the roads and pollute just to produce machines that are disposable unlike the machines that were previously made that lasted over 30 years with little maintenance and inexpensive parts. 

New washing machine efficiency standards proposed by the Biden administration last month have sparked concern from some manufacturers and trade associations that fear the new machines could be less effective and more costly for U.S. consumers.
And let me tell you it’s not just the manufacturers that have doubts the Appliance Repair guys including me. Don’t think it could work. There are new technologies coming out every day, and we should find and support them, but just put in a blanket rule of figure it out less water… Good luck can’t be the answer because they are real people running these washers and dryers that need them.

The mom with a tight budget using reusable, washable, diapers or the grandmother that can’t figure out why her clothes are still dry after they go to the washer. Frankly, I’m not sure why that would work either. Not all washers have this problem, but we are moving towards the high-efficiency ones that do, and before we regulate our self into a corner, we should really think about what a good solution Could look like. A real solution not just a blanket less water rule. 

0:01 department of energy high-efficiency washer intro 
0:41 whirlpool, high-efficiency washer, clothes, smell,
1:02 dry spots, not getting clothes wet enough
1:23 Not fully submerge Deep cycle 
1:58 honest review of high-efficiency washer
2:27 trick to getting Washer to fill up with water
3:27 forced to wash multiple loads, wasting water
3:55 extremely long wash, cycles
4:13 reusable, washable, cloth diapers versus disposable
5:00 agitator vs impeller low profile, agitator
5:26 top loads vs front loads
6:01 DOE lowering water, level, and heat
6:15 professional opinion, as a appliance repairman 


News stories about efficiency washers 

[jasoncarpenter]

I've went back to an older washing machine I bought used for 125.00. I'll never own another water saver machine! Piece of crap machines.

[hellhound-sioz]

Older machines you can also adjust how much water is put into them just by adjusting the water level knob

[GALTIZER]

Thanks for sharing, a friend of mine a few years ago was telling me when 1st started the save energy. He was saying they’re changing motor size from 1/2 horsepower electric motors to 1/8 horsepower and the issue was the motor would work harder therefore using more electricity and not lasting as long. I don’t know what lawmakers are thinking obviously they’re not engineers

[PHOENIQUES_]

Ikr I am having this problem. Also I have a whirlpool and I have four kids so I have to wash a lot of clothes and sometimes when I add water the water doesn’t go out so my clothes are still wet. It’s so frustrating and then I had to take them to the laundromat because I can’t put them in my regular dryer.

[Cocoakisses]

I don't know about all washers, but from what i have which is an LG top loader, only a couple of modes have less water. Usually the normal cycle is the worst offender.... I've learned to play around with the features or "trick" the machine into thinking the load is heavy which will trigger more water....i do have a water plus option, but it doesn't give it that much more water at a time and i can only press it 3 times. There's ways around it, but it's so frustrating to have to do this when you're paying a lot of money for these machines!

[happyzahn]

I've had my current washer about 5 years. My previous and current ones were/are kenmores top loaders. The previous one was really great. The current one is junk. It never gets hot water, just cold, cool, and sometimes warm. If you select hot, it starts hot and purposely starts mixing in cold so it can never get hot. Also, one of my biggest beefs, it locks the lid so you cant easily add/adjust things. So dumb. It has the damper-rod suspension which gives out, of course. I just want them to make washers like 30+ years ago. So much better.

[ursimplythebest]

EXCELLENT POINTS! The government and washer designers needs to see this!!

[seana]

Call me crazy, but I really think there should be some sort of antitrust suit against the DOE and you may ask how does antitrust have anything to do with water and energy restrictions? Simple answer, MONOPOLY. Sure, it’s not a monopoly in a sense one company/entity is making appliances but a monopoly on choice since no matter the make or model, there’s not really a choice despite the manufacturer. Simply not allowing people to have what they want is being monopolistic.

[Thissandthat]

My LG front load washer with recirculation jets thoroughly wet and washes literally everything I’ve ever thrown into it. Even nasty garage rags on a 15 min quick cycle- they’ll come out so clean. It’s wind! After years of HE top loads that could barely wet a paper bag I’m SO glad I got a nice FL washer

[auntie_emm]

When I have to wash my clothes twice, am I saving anything? (Top loader's don't cycle all the clothes through the water- yes, get a side loader if you go HE).

Also, as a former diaper washer, I can verify what you are saying. The biggest problem is that diapers cannot be soaked. I could not find a soak cycle. For any HE machine.

[volpe]

This is great for appliance flippers who still refurbish and sell older models. Great selling point! The old Kenmore TL washers are the best!

[tomnorman]

I’ll do what I can to keep our nearly 20 year old Estate washer and dryer running. Just rebuilt our dryer; new motor, blower wheel, belt, idler pulley, drum rollers, and door switch. Completely disassembled and cleaned it. Cleaned the vent pipe. Repainted the top, which had started to rust. The washing machine has been bulletproof; only had to replace the agitator “dogs” a few years ago. No need to pay for a repairman to come out; I watched YouTube videos, many of them yours, to see how things worked. Did the repairs myself. A few $$$ here and there is a small price to pay for machines that actually work.

[johnny]

I’m saying this with all seriousness, but it’s getting to the point people might as well wash clothes by hand.

[ilgesmccool]

I hate my new washer. I'm having all these same problems and I can't reach the bottom of the tub. Really stupid people in charge, probably have mommy still doing their laundry.

[Kellz_zignotzag]

My front loader duet stopped filling with water. I am carrying 3 buckets to fill it up just so i can wash clothes. Any quick fixes i can try?

[brunoshow]

I'll just keep my Lady Kenmore Series 90 (made by Whirlpool) set. Easy to use, washes things quickly, and super easy to work on in the rare occasion it needs something. I go through a lot of laundry in a week, and some of it is very dirty, I don't have time to fiddle around deciding what the washer feels like doing. It's ridiculous the garbage they sell these days.

[charliegr]

I'm washing 6 small patio chair covers only and I've had to wash my them 4 times and they are still dirty.

[Sourpusscandy]

I didn’t know they were bastardizing the top load machines. Granny should use a short hose from the laundry tub fawcet to fill her machine. Hot!! OK so I found your channel doing a search “deep clean washing machine’ because someone gave me a used one which needs the deep clean, probably take the top and the drum out, scrub that outside, and scrub the tub and all the parts. OY! So how do I get the water softner dispenser off the Kenmore 200? It won’t pull up and turns but does not unscrew. this thing has never been cleaned!

[allanfstewart]

Let's take a step back. No matter what you do with it, you can only make use of water, you can not use it up. It will always be recycled in the environment. The simplest example is the rural homeowner. I live near a river. I get my water from a well that accesses the aquifer that is replenished by the river. After I use water in the house it drains into the septic tank and from there into the yard through the leech field, into the soil, back to the aquifer or river, or 'used' by the vegetation and eventually evaporated to be distributed through the air. None of it just disappears. There are additional steps in urban environments for the water supply and drainage systems but it all boils down to the same cycle.
Now, there are areas where the current demand of the population strains the supply. In those areas, things that increase or stabilize the supply or reduce the ongoing demand make sense. But why do these measures have to be endured by the majority of the country where the water supply is more than efficient? Are towns that have no need for reservoirs of water supposed to dam their rivers because there is a water shortage across the country? So why should the people there only be able to buy over-engineered appliances that sacrifice performance in order to "use" less water?

[christophiluslovingchristb]

I have an HE washer (top loader). It is inefficient. It barely puts water in, does not get all my clothes wet, and I have to rinse 2 or three times to get the suds out. It takes more water, money and time.