Nerevarine(CHIM) vs Hero Of Kvatch(Sheogarath) #shorts #whoisstrongest #elderscrolls

[silvercandra]

I like that the last 3 of these games had two people who basically became gods, and then just some guy with massive plot armor, as their main characters.

[jeffreymodesitt]

The power of CHIM surpasses those of the Aedra and Daedra, why don’t more people know this? To achieve CHIM essentially means becoming a lucid dreamer in the dream that is the Elder Scrolls universe, the Aedra and Daedra are still just aspects of the dream of the Godhead.

[lunarnightcore]

Pretty sure its stated that chim gives power beyond that of the abilities of even the gods

[Bodya_CN]

Anyone can achieve CHIM by drinking some bonkers potions you can make in Morrowind, lol

[aaronperea]

I feel like the only people who can beat a CHIM users is by another CHIM user, the amaranths, and the god head in elder scrolls

[YMTOrochi]

Bendu Olo (Hero of Kvatch) - The hero in his Crusader form was already powerful enough to take on even the Daedra. And no, it's not an exaggeration because the Hero received the blessing of the nine divines, not counting the Cruzader armor and the Hero being the incarnation of Pelinal. In short, he was as strong as the Daedra even before becoming Sheog, imagine now that he has become Sheogorath himself.
Maybe he's even stronger than the Aedra and Daedra combined (remembering that Jiggalag was the strongest Daedra prince among all the daedra, not to mention that all the Daedra feared him)

Nerevarine - Well I don't think you need to say much about Nerevar's deeds because we already know that he defeated Almalecia who was as strong as Mehrunes Dagon, Almalecia asked to forge Nerevar's sword which is said by herself that she could even kill a god . Defeated Dagoth ur who absorbed the powers of Lorkhan's heart, with those who absorb the heart's power becoming as strong as the daedra gods. Even Nerevar interacted with Lorkhan's heart (Yes, he destroyed the heart with the ones he had eliminated). And finally (I think) he mastered CHIM, Those who master CHIM are as strong as any existing being in the world of TES (Or maybe, after all Talos died for a mortal as I recall. He even became an Aedra) .

Now the question who wins?

Simple, for feats, hax, skills, ability and that stuff. Bendu Olo wins, perhaps with little or no difficulty.
With CHIM, Nerevar might win, I say maybe because it's possible to kill a being with CHIM, not to mention I don't know if he's completely mastered CHIM or not. If he did that, there is still a possibility that he will be defeated by Bendu Olo (Sheogorath form)

[spazzmaticus]

"For ages the etada grew and shaped and destroyed each other and destroyed each other’s creations. Some were like Lorkhan and discovered the void outside of the Aurbis, though if some saw the Tower (godhead) I do not know, but I know that, if they did, none held it in such high esteem. In any case, some of those that did see the void created its like inside the Aurbis, but each of these smaller voids sought each other out. Void shall follow void; the etada called it Oblivion."

This quote should tell you all you need to know about why just having CHIM doesn't place you above the likes of Daedric Princes.

[ManVsCliff]

There is no implication that the nerevarine ever achieved chim, and I doubt they had, as Tamriel would have been affected severely. I think its safe to assume the nerevarine ended their campaign with similar abilities to the hero of kvatch after the oblivion crisis/before shivering isles.

[vivec]

Almost half of the player base of elderscrolls dont know chim, chim is practically knowing that you are part of a dream, the dream of the godhead and by acknowledging this you can control the concept of reality like you are lucid dreaming and makes you infinitely powerful and technically unkillable.

[aaronperea]

I’d say this is a pretty even fight because shoegorath in his realm is omnipotent but the nerevarine with CHIM is comparable to vivec who banished Azura back to her realm and defeated Mahrunes Dagon. The ancestor of the nerevarine said by the nords to have defeated Lorkhan but that’s debatable

[Superldier]

The Hero of Kvatch slew Jyggalag, the Strongest Daedric Prince. The Hero of Kvatch is winning.

[bobjoe]

Those who have achieved chim are infinitely more powerful than the Aedra and Daedra.

[BongwaterWG]

One became a God, one was born to be one

[joshuadejesus]

When the dragon born is not even near the power of both previous main characters you know the next one needs to live up to them

[Dagothursolosyourfavverse]

People be overrating the daedric princes in power, while extremely powerful they aren't as strong as the aedra, chim user's, the nerevarine, and the dragonborn all post game. My reasoning behind this is that in oblivion and ESO mehrunes dragon and molag bal were defeated by an aedric artifact. Neither of those Princes were at full power but its not like it was actually akatosh either so I'd say it still amounts to something. Chim is absolutely insane when you consider what I does and it puts whoever has it above the aedra and daedra because it essentially allows you to lucid dream in the tes universe. Alduin has a couple instances of being above the daedric princes in power one being when he created mehrunes dagon and the other when he stalemated lorkhan who also known as Talos. Talos is a chim user meaning alduin stalemated a chim user. Also depending on how you think a kalpa works it would put alduin above the aedra daedra and chim user easily. Since the dragonborn beats alduin and mirrak who states he could beat alduin the dragonborn is clearly above alduin in power. Hermaous mora need the dragonborn to remove mirrak from his own plane of oblivion where he is strongest meaning that even at full power a daedric prince couldnt beat mirrak, the argument that you didn't kill mirrak hermaous mora did is idiotic because you beat the fuck out of mirrak before hermaous mora steps in and seals the kill. Now with the nerevar beating chim user's and the dragonborn having several ways of being above the daedric princes even if the hero of kvatch mantles sheogorath he still doesn't beat them.

[quentinreymond]

You need to understand that CHIM user do not really care about any of the people, gods bounded to the god head they just all seek to achieve amaranth that’s why talos does not interfere with mundus they are essentially outversal being wanting to affirm their existence whereas for exemple deadreas aedras are just personification of the god head

[Alltaylor]

Can you do nerevarine, hero of kvatch and dragonborn vs others

[mr.joedirt]

Both characters are awesome. I go with the Nerevarine based on how I could build my character without using glitches. I always played a Breton. I would usually level up to at least 160. I would max out all skills and wear a Daedric Helmet of God with night eye and water breathing, the Ebony Mail, Daedric Pauldrons, two Wraithgaurds, Daedric greaves, the Boots of the Apostle, the Darksun shield, Marara's ring, and the Ring of Phynaster. I would also wear a belt, shirt, and pants that I enchanted to have constant restore health and fatigue. I would use Kragenrac's tools as weapons most of the time. With two Wraithguards equipped the bonuses from Sunder and Keening were awesome. I could take out almost anything in the game with just two hits. My other equipment and my natural Breton resistance to magic made me nearly invulnerable to physical and magical damage. The corprus immunity made me immune to disease and aging. I felt like a god among insects strutting around Morrowind like I owned the place. I never felt that godlike in Oblivion or Skyrim without using glitches.

[Oogesay]

Tbh I’ve tried chim its not worth it, you trip the fuck out for like 3-4 days seeing stars and shit the universe being born and dying but then the hang over is brutal get a month long headache

[TheBritishHunter]

I'm the Hero of Kvatch and the other names I had as a mortal. But be real, theres more me's than anyone could deal with.