USELESS: Electric buses CAN'T COPE with the COLD | MGUY Australia

[NegotiatorGladiarius]

You know, if they want that badly to run on electricity, for public transportation that goes on fixed routes, there is already a solution: they could always just put up wires and go with trolleybuses. They work in any weather, they actually use less electricity by not having to charge and haul a huge battery, they have no fire hazard, AND don't pollute the world with making those batteries.

[simoncrooke]

Norway would be stuffed without all that revenue from North Sea oil and gas. The hypocrisy is incredible.

[tonysheerness]

My mind boggles as reports from Canada and USA say that EV buses are useless in the cold and yet Norway goes ahead and buys them. These people are mentally insane and their actions prove it.

[tmur]

I'm a fleet mechanic at a small school bus company in Canada. A electric school bus salesman came in trying to convince us to buy some. We asked how they provide heat in the winter which here can sometimes be -30C. He said they use a diesel webasto heater. We all laughed.

[elrobo]

In the early 80's the city of Tucson decided to buy an electric bus and show everyone how forward thinking they were.I was a motorcycle officer and was told to escort the bus with another motor because of the press and all the "dignitaries" riding the bus. We left the park area after the fanfare and back patting the politicians did. Myself and the other officer were "escorting" the bus and we were going at a walking pace and asked the driver if he was going to go faster, he told us the bus top speed is 6 miles per hour. Great forward thinking, put a bus at 6 MPH on a road with a 45 MPH speed limit, that really makes sense.

[matthewdunn]

I am a bus driver for Brookvale, the air-conditioning on the buses has to be on all the time. It is set to 22.3 degrees. So what the Norwegians and others fail to take into account is the massive power drain from the air-conditioning and power steering as well. Plus the motors to drive the pneumatic suspension. These officials are idiots

[PeterPutz]

Bus technology peaked back in the 40's with the trolley bus. They run on mains power, run in any conditions, have heaters and air conditioning and are simple and reliable. If you want to update the tech, add a battery as a backup so the bus can lower is pantograph and drive under its own power. No rails to maintain just overhead cables. Old tech is often the best solution.

[phredflypogger]

Maybe it should be mandated that all Public Service offices have their Air-con turned off and staff vehicles be replaced with bicycles or public transport . Let's see how a dose of reality wakes them up.

[the_Kurgan]

There's actually a pretty simple solution. Don't use batteries. When I was a kid, we had electric trolly busses in many Canadian cities. The power ran through overhead lines. We use electric trains, with the power supplied through the rails.

[bttmfg]

Living in Stockholm, I can tell you that it’s not fun when the bus is late even just a few minutes when it’s -15 C, let alone when it never turns up

[stevenmitchell]

If any significant portion of the vehicle fleet is replaced with EVs, the load on the grid will become unworkable. The solution, as always, will be to increase the cost of electricity to discourage demand. This doesn't just penalise the EV owners, but every home and business that uses electricity.

[baabaabathsheba]

And here was me thinking that Norway was pretty sensible re EV's. Apparently, one of their ferry companies refuses to take EV's because of the combustion problems. Obviously, their pragmatic approach isn't universal. Greetings and solidarity from Cornwall UK. ✌️ I like your channel very much - it's succinct and straight to the point.

[annatanneberger]

Hello here from South Africa. Before Mandela we had an efficient electric railway infrastructure, that took thousands of commuters, including me, to work ever day. That was destroyed, by corruption on a massive scale. Now it is all road transport in crowded minibus taxis, spewing diesel fumes. But, hey, rather than fixing the railway infrastructure - they brought in electric busses!! Yay! One of them burst into flames right in front of me. It took hours before the fire could be put out and the highway was blocked all that time. Yay!

[NYPATRIOTBX]

I’m a mechanic for NYCTA, the all electric buses only run in certain routes of the city that don’t require going up too many steep grades or hills. We had road calls for buses stuck going up hills because the batteries were dying out while in service.

[samuelselassie]

in my country Denmark there was a snowstorm and all the electric buses could not move, but the Danish government has plans to remove all Electric buses from Denmark and now they will be learning the hard way

[tmorris]

They bought 320 buses without testing them first? Insane.

[shovelguggelheim]

Does anyone else find it ironic that the things that are introduced to stop us getting warmer actually need that warmth to work?

[philrulon]

Well designed electric busses have been around for 90 years or so. They were quite common in the Boston area years ago, where I grew up. They worked great, had no batteries, ran quietly, and very cleanly, and were very efficient. And they had good heat. They ran on routes that carried overhead catenary lines to provide power. A good number of cities are still using them, I was in Seattle a few years ago and saw quite a few of them. But they are not an eye candy, revolutionary technology leap to grab headlines. They are an old school technology that still works, so no one can brag about them effectively. So they don’t get built. Oh well.

[jimmyandersson]

The really funny part with our busses in Scandinavia is that more than 90% of them has a diesel-heater for heating the inside of the bus and that has no form of system that cleans the exhausts, so they actually pollutes more in winter than an ordinary diesel-bus. Hilarious🤣🤣🤣

[lukedeschenesld]

Here in Toronto Canada electric busses have diesel heaters for very cold winters. It’s a scam