When Were Cornelius and His Household Saved? (Acts 10-11)

When were Cornelius and his household saved? Was it when they were baptized? When the Holy Spirit fell on them? Or could it be that as Gentiles they were still under the Patriarchal Covenant? To find our answer, let’s talk about it with Don Blackwell and breakdown what really happened in Acts 10.

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[baldhead]

Amen brother thank you for your hard work serving the kingdom and our lord Jesus

[aliaskong]

Thank you Don, I get good knowledge from your videos.

[brianstreet]

Very thorough explanation! Holy Spirit to confirm, I learned from this thank you!

[TransplantHelper]

This is the most confusing video I’ve ever watched. The whole Cornelius “may not have been lost” is a mute point that should have never made into the video. It give the impression that he could have been saved under his law until he learned different.?

[aarontitus]

Wow, men! Thanks God for the insight by Bro Don . may the Good LORD bless, for the truth.😀

[darrenmiller]

Very elequent. A worthwhile exercise following this dialogue. This is a very patient man. I'm praying for more patience. Some people cherry pick the Bible doctrine and I sometimes lose my patience. Clearly some people are lying or deluding themselves when they profess reverence for God's word. The arragance of taking your feelings over the word of God is profound and astounding. Acts, Peter, Romans, nearly every book in the Bible clearly states baptism is essential, fundamental, in becoming a Christian.

[aarondotpettus]

Can you please explain these verses in light of the point made in the video?

He who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us is God, who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.

By this we know that we abide in Him, and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit.

[ballengerfarmhomestead]

I think it’s rather deceptive for you to say that “We don’t know what Peter said, it only says that he had just started to speak.” In Acts 10:34-44, it actually tells us exactly what Peter said, and it was quite a lot actually, in fact it appears he preached the entire gospel.

“So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him. As for the word that he sent to Israel, preaching good news of peace through Jesus Christ (he is Lord of all), you yourselves know what happened throughout all Judea, beginning from Galilee after the baptism that John proclaimed: how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him. And we are witnesses of all that he did both in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They put him to death by hanging him on a tree, but God raised him on the third day and made him to appear, not to all the people but to us who had been chosen by God as witnesses, who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. And he commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one appointed by God to be judge of the living and the dead. To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.” While Peter was still saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word. And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10‬:‭34‬-‭45‬ ‭ESV‬‬

[BarryWhitehead-in]

He didn’t have time to have faith? Please let me know how long it takes to have faith? I’m interested in that number.

[bobthrasher]

We can't answer this question unless we first understand what salvation is. Salvation is a multi-faceted subject. When you understand salvation (it's three phases), you will then understand why baptism saves.

[jamesstrohl]

As I have said to so many people who believe that Cornelius was saved before baptism that they have to look at the whole story. There are two parts, which the narrator has said, but the other part was the lesson for Peter and the Jews.

If baptism wasn't necessary, then why did Peter give the command to baptize them.

[RoseGreen]

You even have the example of the Corinthians being carnal in 1 Cor 3 even though they had the Holy Spirit.

[amosthree]

He has to explain away exactly what the bible is teaching in Acts 11 and surprisingly people below are thanking him because of course they would have to admit that one does receive the Holy Spirit the moment they are saved. It is very clear in this passage. And read these verses from this chapter carefully, Acts 11:7 And I heard a voice saying to me, ‘Rise, Peter; kill and eat.’ 8 But I said, ‘Not so, Lord! For nothing common or unclean has at any time entered my mouth.’ 9 But the voice answered me again from heaven, ‘What God has cleansed you must not call common.’ 10 Now this was done three times, and all were drawn up again into heaven. 11 At that very moment, three men stood before the house where I was, having been sent to me from Caesarea. 12 Then the Spirit told me to go with them, doubting nothing. Moreover, these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered the man’s house. 13 And he told us how he had seen an angel standing in his house, who said to him, ‘Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon whose surname is Peter, 14 who will tell you words by which you and all your household will be saved.’ 15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them, as upon us at the beginning. 16 Then I remembered the word of the Lord, how He said, ‘John indeed baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’ 17 If therefore God gave them the same gift as He gave us when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could withstand God?” If you notice what Peter was told in v7 not so Lord, v9 then said to Peter "what God has cleansed YOU MUST NOT CALL COMMON. Keep reading after you swallow what you just read, now read what v16 says and you will again take a deep breathe v16 THEN I REMEMBERED THE WORD OF THE LORD, HOW HE SAID, JOHN baptized with water BUT YOU SHALL BE BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT. v17 If therefore God gave them the SAME GIFT HE GAVE US WHEN WE BELIEVED ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, """WHO WAS I THAT COULD WITHSTAND GOD?""" Praise the Lord to those who see and believe, knowing that this will be explained away by some, but hopefully not all of you. John 11:25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, 26 and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this? 27 She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.” Of course, other scriptures teach this same truth. Reread chapter Acts 10-11 to see this truth in its whole context. Reread v 15-25, notice 17 If therefore God gave them the same gift as He gave us when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could withstand God?” Let the scripture say what it says, and then believe it!

[eliphasphiri]

Jesus told the Sadducees that they were mistaken becuass they didn't know the scriptures, the same goes for you and the Church of Christ, the church of Christ is one of the greatest con job to Gian members in the same group as SDA, Jehovah s witnesses and Mormons

[christcentered]

Faith though the Gospel brings your salvation to you. Faith is not your salvation or savior but you cannot be saved without faith.

[Britton]

The argument is not on the holy spirit the passage is thus Acts 10 :43 To him give all the prophets witness that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sin. that is the gospel.

[lanmansvideos]

Don Blackwell- "The Purpose of the Holy Spirit was never to be an indicator of whether someone is saved or not"

The Holy Bible - "13 By this we know that we abide in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit." 1 John 4:13

"The Holy Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God" Romans 8:16

"In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit" Eph 1:13

"Now this he said about the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive, " John 7:39A

[mattbouldin]

The point that the Holy Spirit can fall externally upon unsaved people is absolutely biblical, but in this case the context tells us that the Holy Spirit was in fact given for the purpose of demonstrating salvation. This is why Jesus sent Peter to Cornelius in the first place according to chapter 10. Consequently, a passage that was left out of this in chapter 11 states that the other Jews believed that God had granted the gentiles eternal life on the basis of the fact that the Spirit fell upon them when they heard and believed Peters preaching. No mention of baptism was even given to prove to the Jews the salvation of the gentiles.

[eliphasphiri]

You contradict yourself by claiming Cornelius was in sin while claiming he was saved in the old fashion

[marylamb]

Acts 11:15 is badly worded. Peter is talking about two different ideas.

11:15 en tōi arxasthai me lalein. "En" is tied with the aorist (past-tense ) infinitive "arxasthai" and the accusative of general reference (tied to second idea). The second infinitive "lalein" (to speak) is dependent on "arxasthai." So we have a phrase, "In the beginning to speak as to me" or "Even as on us at the beginning he spoke." (Word order is not good inthe English) All aorists must comform to the past tense. Different manuscripts differ here and there but all regard the same expression that Peter is referring to the past.

Instead of “As I began to speak, the Holy Spirit came on them as he had come on us at the beginning."
Better: "As it was told me, the Holy Spirit came on them as he had come on us at the beginning."

No secular historian uses the phrase. The rest of Acts confirms that Peter was referring to Pentecost.