Catch Wrestling vs Jiu-Jitsu: What's the Difference?

Black Flag Submission Company head coach, Gilbert Olivas, breaks down the differences between catch wrestling and jiu-jitsu.

Academy:

[superdonyoungy]

I dislike the "oh that's illegal" response to anything that beats a jiu jitsu technique. I'm a jiu jitsu practitioner but I happily incorporate anything that works into my repertoire.

[RhinoXpress]

Definitely. knowing two grappling disciplines is always better than knowing just one.

[donsmith]

I'm a bjj Instructor and I do not believe any grappling styles should be separated

[swordsman]

been in nightclub security for 25 years, so 1 mans professional opinion...for a 'real fight'
#1:muay thai...all fights start on your feet...emphasis on punches and elbows...rarely would i ever want to deliberately lift a leg off the ground and give up footing to use a knee or kick in a real fight
#2:whatever grappling system you want / is available near you, emphasize take downs and take down defense...then KISS (keep it simple stupid), overly complex subs and chokes rarely have time to work in the heat of 'real' battle
#3:be ready to use every 'dirty' trick you can learn...there's a reason they're illegal in competition; They Work..ask me how i know :wink:

[sleepytwiggaming]

Always best to respect all grappling arts and learn what works for whatever you use it for

[kaz]

Gi's are expensive heavy and a pain inthe ass to wash especially during winter.

No gi is cheaper gear easier to was and u can just chuck on a hoodie or a 2x XL tshirt after training

[joelsook]

Trap! Lock! Submit! … that’s it! Grappling is king

[SINdaBlock]

different styles of grappling are no different from different languages within the same category of languages: for example, within Roman languages, you have French, Italian and Portuguese ... sometimes there are clear similarities, often there are unique words or expressions or vocabulary etc. but in the end the meaning of those words is the same, and grappling techniques are no different: an armbar is an armbar (juji gatame, armbar, it doesn't matter how you call it, same technique), a choke is a choke and a hip throw is a hip throw ... it doesn't really matter whether it comes from catch wrestling or judo or jiu-jitsu, as long as the meaning behind the technique is understood, the technique will be communicated and will be effective ...

[metalgamedog]

in real fighting the catch wrestling is superior there are takedowns that make the difference ... and by using wrestling + latwei, you become a complete fighter in a real fight ....

[jjs]

Don’t forget how Carlos Gracie was defeated by Santino Dos Santos (catch wrestler) and so Carlos got a mob and attacked home with pipes and broke his arm to end his career. If Dos Santos didn’t succumb to Gracie thug violence, Catch would be all the hype now and not Brazilian judo.

[harrisfrankou]

The origins of Wiggan coming initially from the British Merchant Navy having fights in every port and picking up new moves from around the world is probably why it is superior to BJJ... I mean just look at Sakuraba...how many Gracies they threw at him and he just dominated all of them.
And then the whole Khabib and Fedor Russian sorta Mongolian Persian origins...mutating from Greco Roman, one could argue that except for Muay Thai, that most Asian martial arts are inferior to Western styles, even the Gracie offshoot.
Your not even allowed to smash the dudes head from Guard onto the rubber mat!!!

[darylfields]

Ngl catch wrestling and bjj look very similar even tho bjj came from judo

[凸Bebo凸]

Catch Wrestling is for when you are a blue belt and you have a big ego about gi guys and Brazillians tapping you. Eventually you move onto BJJ after 10 years because you can't catch any brown belts in tournaments. Also known as the Eric Paulson method.

[dragonballjiujitsu]

I think you are confusing sport BJJ (complete bullshit that has nothing to do with fighting) with actual Gracie Jiu-jitsu. They aren't close to the same thing. Actual Jiu-jitsu is about what works in a real fight when people are throwing real strikes. Not what works in an IBJJF competition under strict rules. The only problem I have with catch wrestling is its over dependence on pain compliance to get a tap when no actual structural damage is being done.

[i_GiveFRUITS]

BJJ is not good. When you look into the Gracies and the origins of BJJ you find out about Carlos Gracie (Brother of Helio Gracie) trained in Catch Wrestling.... The fact they use Catch Wrestling moves and rename them is embarrassing... Twister, Kimura, Triangle Choke, 50/50 Guard, Body Triangle and more. Instead of copying moves they should've worked on Takedowns being as that's not a strong point of BJJ.