Does DNA evidence prove the Book of Mormon is false? Ep. 55

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The Book of Mormon tells the story of a family from ancient Jerusalem that crossed the ocean and colonized somewhere in the Western Hemisphere where they started an entire civilization. With that as a foundation, the Church has taught for a long time that many Native Americans were, naturally, descendants of that family. So from a genetic perspective, you’d think that some portion of Native Americans should have heritage in the Middle East. But so far, DNA research hasn’t found that to be the case. To some people, that alone is enough to discredit the validity of the Book of Mormon. But in this episode, Dave cites a few genetic principles that show why DNA research is simply unable to refute (or affirm) the validity of the Book of Mormon.

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Okay but what you're missing is Joseph Smith himself... knowing nothing about genetics.. claimed that the native Americans were descendents of the Lamanites!! He was just straight up wrong. The mental gymnastics involved is truly incredible...

spicytranslations
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So these Genetics drift happened within a short hundred of years. Sounds like fiction

tebwebwetionatan
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How come it went from the “principal” and now “among”? Why the word change?

jjp
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The problem with these theories in this video is that they do not take into account the possibility of taking DNA from the remains of individuals. This video makes it sound like that it has only focused on the genetics from living populations. We have seen some of the traits that he mentioned in the archaeological record, but there is absolutely no evidence for genetic linkage from archaeological DNA that had been recovered. We have a sizable amount now to make certain predictions. To those who say 'well, there is still some out there that we have not found' when will it be enough to show there there is no connection? In all, this video does not really explain anything.

corneliusmakin-bird
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The other two migration from the Book of Mormon were also Jewish people with Jewish DNA markers.

That seems disingenuous, and leave out that fact, does it not?

plporter
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I truly hope these videos find wider circulation amongst Latter Day Saints.

It's invaluable in today's secular culture for members to be informed about the more controversial/ complex issues relating to church history, doctrine, or practice. Infact, I would argue that in order to be more effective missionaries (and to show that we have nothing to fear/ hide) we should be more familiar with them than our critics. Your videos are one of the best resources I've seen in this regard.

Excellent work guys!!!

ethanf.
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I remember when I was in first grade, in 1982, that my teacher asked the class if we knew which genetic markers were found in the American Indigenous population. She said it contained that of the Jews. She wasn't LDS, nor did she know about the heritage of the Book of Mormon (I believe, I was only 6 years old). I have often wondered where she got that information from.

JohnHarmon
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Is it possible that the knowledge that the American Indians came from Siberia was just not known the the people of Joseph Smith's time, and so Joseph Smith just made the whole story up of American Indians being the descendants of ancient Israelites? Is it at all possible?

historicalperspective
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Trying to match DNA is pretty pointless when you consider that Lehi wasn't even a Jew strictly - he was of the tribe of Manasseh - whose mother was the daughter of a priest in Egypt. And Egypt at that time was ruled by the Hyksos, whose origin is uncertain, but came from the north-east. Which btw would be Asia. We don't know Sariah's origins, or Ishmael's, and it would be foolish to make assumptions in light of the foregoing. DNA proves / disproves nothing.

tezzerii
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To go along with the point of not knowing what DNA to look for, it should be pointed out that Lehi and his family were trying to escape a "bottleneck" event by flirting from the Babylonian conquest. Given that between the departure of Lehi from Jerusalem and the new testament, Jerusalem was conquered by Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome, all of which conquests were probably bottleneck events (or at the very least would have been major dilutions of the genre pool). I would speculate that the DNA of those living in Jerusalem at the time of Jesus' ministry probably didn't really match up that well with the DNA of the ancient Jews of the Old Testament either.

stulog
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The skittles theory is as confusing as the trinity 😂

GodManyprayers
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None of this changes the fact that there isn’t any direct evidence of anything in the Book of Mormon actually happening. At best you’re explaining why your hypothesis is still a hypothesis. The evidence you haven’t found yet is not evidence of anything, it’s just an assertion and/or a belief.

wildbillslunksauce
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What happened to all the structures, weapons, tools, human bones and all other things that would have been left behind from the book of Mormon stories? Why hasn't anyone found a single thing in the Americas ...

ATD
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Middle Eastern DNA does indeed show up in my own indigenous heritage. I have Mi'kmaq Canadian heritage through my grandmother, an Acadian Mi'kmaq. Yet, no "Mi'kmaq" DNA showed up in my DNA test of 2022. Instead, I had 1.3% Middle Eastern DNA and 0.9% MesoAmerican DNA. Can these results be any clearer?

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The Book of Mormon states that the Jaredites and Mulekites went extinct before the arrival of Lehi's family, and 2 Nephi chapter 1 details that the promised land would be set apart exclusively for Lehi's family and their descendants. This principle was validated by multiple church leaders, notably Jeffery R Holland who stated: "The Promised Land was set apart. Without habitation it waited for the fulfillment of god's special purposes."
-A Promised Land, Ensign Magazine 1976

As such the theory that the Laminates intermingled with people who were already in the Americas is incompatible with LDS doctrine.

This is why I love LDS doctrine. You don't even need to look to external sources to prove it wrong, it proves itself wrong.

enigmaticvaran
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Why did the Church not tell us this until the DNA studies came out? You would think they would have revelation that would clarify this.

medeekdesign
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This is all fine, and props on the explanation of pretty complex genetic concepts. However, the entire premise is backwards. The book of Mormon makes many extraordinary claims, and those claims require extraordinary proofs. Proving a negative doesn't follow logic. The only conclusion that can be reached from current evidence is that there is currently no proof that the events in the Book of Mormon took place. Until further proof is found, the claims are rejected.

zzzvalvoline
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Does no one even mention the big DNA change the Laminates went through the whole changed skin tone? I feel like that would also be a big factor.

Bitter_Beauty_Music
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What about the lack or archaeological evidence?

saladsnowflakes
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I get what this videos saying but I wouldn’t want to believe on the Book of Mormon when everything requires such a stretch of what is likely.
No Middle Eastern DNA. No archaeological evidence.
No good reason why the BOM was translated into 16th century English during the 19th century of which it was transmitted. Why did the angel want the plates back even though he hadn’t needed them for the past 1800 years?
There may be ways to justify these points, but when every aspect requires this huge stretch of what ought to be expected, the odds of the BOM been true start to look similar to the odds of winning a life changing sum of money from a one dollar lottery ticket

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