Trump vs. Harris: Who does China want? - The Global Story podcast, BBC World Service

In the third of our pre-election series we look at America and... China.

The United States and China have had a turbulent history. In recent years, diplomatic relations between the world's two largest economies reached what many observers described as a new low, and despite some growing signs of stability, the future remains uncertain. So, how might this precarious situation be impacted by the upcoming US election?

For the latest episode in this special series, Sumi Somaskanda is joined by the BBC's China correspondent Laura Bicker, and our business correspondent Michelle Fleury. They tackle big issues from trade and the economy, to defence and national security, and consider what victory for either Kamala Harris or Donald Trump could mean for the ongoing Sino-American relationship.

00:00 Introduction
01:30 Chinese media attention on the election
02:12 Current US-China relations
03:54 Are US voters concerned about relationship?
04:54 President Xi Jinping's views on the United States
06:21 The two largest economies in the world
07:32 What is the trade deficit?
08:49 A second 'China shock'?
09:56 How Trump and Harris would approach China relationship
11:04 Taiwan
13:44 How security concerns change the relationship
15:08 How much are Harris and Trump talking about China?
15:39 Do Chinese authorities have a preference between Trump and Harris?
16:54 Influence of big business on the relationship
17:21 'The most consequential relationship in the world'

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[inuwooddog]

Think about it. Even the Americans don't know Who they want. How would China know?

[BrigetteWaltershield]

Elections can significantly shift market dynamics and investor sentiment. It's essential for us as investors to stay informed and adapt our strategies accordingly. Historically, certain sectors thrive depending on election outcomes—think green energy vs. fossil fuels. Keeping a close eye on the candidates' policies could provide valuable insights for making smart investment choices.

[Abcilswd]

No matter who will be elected, it cannot stop America from decline. Irreversible.

The World needs peace.

[gliang]

Chinese don't mind who becomes the next US President. My dear US citizens, the burden of fixing your country's issues is on you but not on us.

[TheKkpop]

It's none of Chinese business. Both Republic and Democrat are the same.

[alejandroavendano]

The US loves a good fight, they cant live without a foe, its like the joker who needs a Batman, or Lex luthor who needs a Superman, they feel lonely otherwise

[kittyflier]

As a Chinese, frankly speaking, I don't give a d*mn. But it's quite amusing, the voting.

[yu-jdjg]

China has no preference but will be fully ready 24/7 for all eventualities taken by the Hegemonic US

[kangsoonlim]

Frankly speaking, China couldn't care less who won as the foreign policy of the USA towards China will not be different no matter who won.

[soonhockchua]

Wrote this a while back but applies to this subject:
At age 64 (2015) my Canadian friend who at that point had lived in China for 17 years convinced me to come see for myself how advanced China was in infrastructure, technology and morality compared to our country of Canada and any of the 5 eyes countries.

So I spent 6 months in SE Asia exploring with a Canadian friend who had lived there for 17 years.

The lies and propaganda just can't compete when you go see for yourself.

As a Westerner who believes all the propaganda do you ever wonder how come such an evil empire as China has not dropped bombs, not invaded, not sanctioned, does not Assassinate other countries officials and yet your country (so morally superior) why do you do all these things or at minimum support the US as they do all these things?

Do you ever ask yourself that? Do you ever wonder why America (land of the free) has more prisoners than any other country in the world?
Do you ever wonder how China pulled 850 million people out of poverty while America gave all it's wealth to the 1%.

Do you ever wonder why walking in downtown America at night is seriously risking your Life while walking in any major cities in China day or night is perfectly safe?

Do you ever wonder how China can give 1.4 billion people free education and reasonable regulated healthcare with the right to choose between traditional Chinese medicine or Western medicine, while in America most people can't afford health care?

Do you ever wonder why a single party country with 1.4 billion people have a government approval by survey of 90+% yet not a single 5 eyes countries or NATO countries can even achieve 50%.
Do you every wonder why elected politicians don't represent the people who elected them?

Do you ever wonder why a country that "we say" oppresses their population has 155 million citizens travel abroad and they all come home.

Lastly do you ever wonder how a country that has achieved so much has not had a single positive news article in the new York Times or the Wall Street journal or any of the major networks?

If you don't wonder about any of these things, then you probably think your not bombing Syria to steal their oil, your not sanctioning Venezuela to control their oil, your not sanctioning Huawei because they are more advanced.

You probably also believe Edward Snowden is a traitor rather than a hero, you probably think the war crimes Chelsea Manning revealed were justified and you probably think Americans are still the good guys.

Perhaps get a passport, go see the truth, redemption is still a possibility.

- Vic Toews CC

[DrVictorVasconcelos]

"Remember when the BBC wasn't just neocon talking heads?"
"No"

[alexng]

what does Britain want? what does Gaza want? What about Palestine? who

[geeglox]

We grew up with superheroes created by Hollywood, and now as we grow older, we are witnessing the decline of the US!

[shankarbalakrishnan]

Trying to stay away from control and power three cjips down and how to control others shows up. No one has lived controlling the world. It only happens when earthly powers and control die

[urbanstrencan]

It will be really interesting to see how US - China relationship will be in the future, it will impact global politics

[kevinkevin-ivfw]

When I picked up my pen tried to reason with them politely like a five thousand years old old man, they pulled out their guns and said they only reason from the position of strength, but when I pulled out and set up my canons, they then picked up their pens and said no no no, we are all civilized men and we should talk about terms instead of showing weapons around. What a bizarre world!

[ruimintianomi]

I don't think China wants either of them. In a society where you have to be excellent to get by, and you're punished for being ordinary, ordinary people are overwhelmed by the overwork and burnout induced by rat race, and they prefer someone who will mitigate the situation, but both of these two only seem to compound it.

[leecheelek]

A Superpower voting for 2 incompetent and unmerited candidates to be their Leader/President. Is it a contest to choose between the one less competent? How did it became like this?

[ArtGalleryArts]

Vote for a healthy intelligent, strong mentally and physically, competent leader 🇺🇸Vote Harris / Walz Nov 2024. ❌No to senile narcissistic Sick OLD man trump.

[benki]

As a Chinese, I personally like Trump. For my country, I think Harris's coming to power is the best for China. I have observed that Trump is a very smart and pragmatic person, and has a very deep understanding of things and problems. As for Harris, I don't know her very well, but I have observed her debate with Trump. She has a lot of expressions, which makes people feel very artificial. Such a person is only scheming, not very capable. It is hard to imagine that the country with the world's first comprehensive strength would choose such a person to compete for the presidency. So I think it will be really difficult for the United States to compete with China in the future. For my country, I think it would be better to let Harris take office.