Arena Breakout just broke my heart

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Today, we're taking an in-depth look at the Arena breakout monetization system instead of gameplay, sadly.
0:00 - Explanation
3:23 - Testing (SCIENCE!)

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Someone who disagrees: Define "Pay2win"

TactiGamer
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and we all thought "AAA Studios will be crying after this" its sad they did this.

Travis_Scorsese
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Wait until he finds out about face shields

supernova
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Free to play games need to have a huge player base to survive with a fair paying model.

reinach
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Just got on a raid recently, went to the factory and my dumb ass went into the open.
Covert player blended in with the bots i was trying to clear,
I have t4 armor on
And this dude wrecked my legs from 40 meters

Gear rarely matters, i lasted 4 seconds wearing good armor
If only i had cover

az-
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Ive been enjoying tf outta this since last night. Ive played about 8 hours total now. Already lvl. 16. Its just Tarkov-lite. Shorter rounds, smaller maps, and the game gives you 1.8 mil to start off. Ive been smart with my cash and now am sitting at 3.2. Im not too concerned with the P2W aspect at the moment, either be aware of your surroundings and avoid chads. Or got get a mag worth of lvl 6 or 7 ammo if youre so scared of them. Ive only ran into a team of 2 gigachads so far with lvl 6 everything and it was kinda my fault for loading into armory. I killed one of them with my mosin w/lvl 7 rounds. Everyone can either:
1. Waste your energy by crying about it
2. Go play tarkov/SPT
3. Realize its a Chinese published F2P game and theres no convincing them.

Its a fun game for people that want a more casual tarkov experience. Well optimized, guns feel good, and theres almost no questline ball torture like tarkov

guerrinlove
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@tactigamer 3:26
The comparison of PRS and Tier 6 armour is incredibly poor for this argument. PRS is tier 1 it is literally the lowest tier ammo and that is also pretty much the starter calibre

This is literally basic map bot level ammo and you are comparing it one of the heaviest and best protecting armours in the game. You have not played this game. (for reference the literal starter ammo is PP - tier 3 and is a decent tier 3-4 player and bor muncher and is by no means an extravagant ammo)

The average pvp is tier 4 bullets for players and tier 3 for bots, usually if you’re running level 4 armour and expecting an average of tier 4 to 5 players. Compare that and you’ll find it’s very viable.

Furthermore for low ammo vs high armour cases you can do a ton of blunt damage in arena breakout infinite and can fairly easily ruin somone by going for their legs and arms. Only novices to the game aim straight for the chest in these cases thinking it’s like any other game where hit = damage.

You play and shoot tactically and you get armour that performs for its price. And often for these higher ones it heavily slows you down and makes getting your legs shot out a serious weakness - the added weight also makes you physically a lot louder for CQB

- The (it’s not) pay to win - 2:39
The pay system in arena does add a significant amount of additional permanent lobby storage and temporarily both additional lobby storage and the safe case. Even though the safe case can be used to protect your most expensive ammo and save super expensive items in the game, it is super convenient but not pay to win you can definitely get by just fine without it.

The significant additional permanent lobby storage does affect viability a bit, as it greatly improves how much stuff you can keep just on hand, though that’s easy to get around as you can just convert your loot to cash which stacks way smaller than say, a gun or some armour.

And even if the storage has somehow gotten that full from pure cash, the permanent pay storage is purchased for literally $10 bucks and you only ever have to do it once. So a 1 off $10 bucks for an already free game is not pay to win

Diepotatoes
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Sheef (tarkov streamer) went into a raid as a scav last night and killed two players who one of them had t-7's (the 2.5 million koen thermal gogles) along with best armor and fully kitted out guns. The players who Sheef killed and had the t-7's were level 3. You start with 1.8 mill. They spent more than 40$ each.

majuleznfs
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Buy better ammo, still got one-shot with tier 6 armor.
Armor is never gonna make a bad player good.

Mr.Rhox
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I still dont get the ammo argument, it was literally the same in the alpha and who uses prs ammo, really? even in tarkov every player who played for at least 50 + hrs knows about the importance of rounds in the chamber you are using. Game is still fun to play and they have to earn their money threw something. Played for 1 day have over 5 mill inv value dont really know how can you struggle in this game.

MrMatK
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Why it feels like Tacti calls every new extraction shooter "Tarkov for Dads"

tzav
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Was excited to finally play something a bit more casual while retaining some hardcore elements, especially a game that seems to stick to the gritty aesthetic (unlike, say, Call of Duty these days). But, man, I knew there had to be a catch, especially with monetization. I miss those old days when we'd get multiplayer games that you only had to buy once... and only have expansion packs of some sort be the additional purchases post-release. I'm not even that old yet (mid-20s), but the way mainstream gaming, movies, and so on have been lately... just makes me feel even more nostalgic of my earlier days as a kid enjoying stuff... altho I had to kinda hide it from my overly-strict parents back in the day. Hahahaha. Oh, and let's not forget how so many multiplayer titles back then either had offline modes/bots on launch or some form of mod-friendly features that would allow for such things to be implemented by the community.

PsychoRavager
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"Tarkov for dads" is EFT PVE.

Globalnet
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8:51 you can buy a secure container on a certain level with rank point, to get rank points, you need to play on ranked mode.

For key container, you will get it after you complete evita's mission

r.asyafiq
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mp5 dum dum rounds to the legs will kill any player in under a second no matter the armor

nicolasgaither
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For everyone who is believing this game is p2w, it aint. I have played w level 5 gear on tv station and have been killed with low tier ammo countless times. Mostly rats, but it happens a lot. Gears will not help if you dont have the skills. This game is absolutely amazing. Feels bad for those who looked at this dude’s review and strayed away from it. Bro using the worst ammo against the best armor, wtf do you expect?

seanw
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The only pay to win aspect of this game is monthly payment for a secure container. Everything else you can achieve as a f2p player.

MarkoVuckovic
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Main problem autofill squad. So if you don’t wanna play with random people you will almost every match fight vs full squad. Other things sound like little girl cry. Don’t wanna donate - grind.

Krkr
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Me just playing not even looking at the "pay to win" aspect.

cameroncoggin
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The main problem is that AB Infinite is catering more to tarkov's gameplay than the mobile ver. These p2w options don't affect the mobile ver bcuz the skill gap is so high that the player's skill could negate the enemy's gear. But ABI looks like that it has slower movement and longer ads speeds, that it'll rely more on how good your gear is than how good your gameplay is.

Wildungold