How to Shift in the New Forza Motorsport Using Manual w/ Clutch

Here's a quick how-to on shifting in the new Forza Motorsport! I've been asked this lots, hopefully this will help everyone get an idea of how it works.

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[bobcobb]

Dude! Used to love watching your vids.. found you when I was getting into Forza 5 way back when. Hope all is going well in life brother

[Ajexs]

Mate it been a while! Good to see you back!

[snowusa]

Finally some one explained! Glad to see you back!

[ankitpsk]

Hey RB, long time fan, so glad to see you playing Forza again buddy. I remember back in the day I had your Forza 5 tunes list bookmarked cus I loved them so much haha. :D

I tried manual with clutch briefly but since it felt so weird I just switched to manual. Might have to give it another shot now tho!

[TobinLeigh]

Gotta love raceboy making Forza vids again

[EvLSpectre]

They made it so that its broken on pedals when running a stock trans/clutch. Even in real life I could shift faster in a 80s worn out econobox faster than the game is letting me shift modern day sport cars. Its making it so its just faster to drive without a clutch

[Pick_Lock]

Whoop whoop, is good seeing you again!

[jamesmoore]

Quick summary: using the clutch pedal and shifter is impossible to get right with damage on.

Long explanation: so my issue with this is as follows: in real life, the feel of the shifter (which is attached by linkages to the gears) is directly related to the clutch pedal (which is attached through linkages to the gears). Unless certain conditions are met, for the most part, you cannot physically take the car out of gear or put it back into gear without pushing in the clutch pedal. (There are exceptions to this; I drove a semi for fifteen years and didn't clutch on gear changes, only when starting and stopping.) Point is... the timing window applied in this game is a touch TOO realistic (I know, right?), with an exaggerated penalty applied in the form of transmission damage. Not shifting perfectly will have an effect on performance, but when the game applies damage to the transmission, it then makes those mistimed shifts even harder to get control of. The player never gets a chance to work their way into the correct window because the window keeps changing as the transmission continues to take damage shift after shift. I watched my telemetry for a (very awkward) lap, and near as I could tell, every shift damaged my transmission another 1-2% until shifting had such a huge delay, it almost wasn't worth doing at all. I'd be fine to turn off the simulation damage and just try to work through the timing (which is different on every car and different still with every upgrade to that car), but the devs decided to lump that selection in with the penalty system and the rewind availability instead of allowing me to just turn off the simulation damage. So now I'm faced with a few choices I don't like: I could go manual without clutch (boring and unnatural feeling now), or I could choose the lower ruleset (even though I want to keep the other things from the higher ruleset), or I could commit to trying to figure out the variable timing window on each car, all while continuing to change that window every time I miss a beat (it's un-gas, clutch, ungear, pause, gear, un-clutch, gas and I mess up something in there every time).

[RisingMuggel]

Glad to see you in the leaderboard of Lime Rock class B!

[Non.mi.interessa]

thanks man... you're always the best.. these small tip and tricks for us racers are very important.. thank you again.. been waiting for your setups

[brycetucker]

Any chance you can start doing car build videos? I would love too see your perspective on the build and tune process. Your builds always work for me, would like to understand your approach, so I can work on them myself. Great job as always with your content.

[JohnnyKing-sz]

Hey glad to see you back. What kind of videos will you be posting? Would like to see tuning tips

[TheFade]

Exactly what I came for. Clutch in shift clutch out. Not like the old games subbed

[davidhess]

Can confirm, switching shifter from H pattern to sequential mode improved so much. Can power shift

[WillFuI]

O yo that transmission upgrade is actually worth it

[mbhnvmy]

Do you hold the clutch button (left bumper) down while shifting? I’m still unable to follow through.

[AggressiveNugget]

Stream has come a way bro, no more laying in bed hahaha bravo!

[davetc]

makes sense, i had manual with clutch and shifts were missing like a mofo! ahaha thanks for this video

[Stallzyx]

Thanks for letting us know Raceboy! I've had the same issues with the FH4 clutch I think as well, and maybe it was present in 7 also but I definitely felt it in FH4 from limited play time on there. Good to know that it improves as you upgrade but I've found if you purposely try and shift early that it crunches gears a lot too, more often than high in the rev range on stock cars also. Saw you got 15th when I checked a few days ago on the Corvette Maple Valley rivals and thought wow. I spent many hundreds of laps chasing you round on Long Beach with your escort tune on Forza 5

[analogsamurai]

hey man, i raced against you a few times in previous forza's.
i came across you again last night. holy fk you fast. i had a 7s lead on 3rd place and you had me by 20s.
not to mention you put some of my top rival times to shame 🤣
im coming for ya bro ( in a friendly competitive manner )
im sgtpotsmoker in case you remember me... if not i need to push your times a bit more on the rivals 🤣
good luck in future races bro.