Client Surveillance

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[crazyrobots]

"we spent $3000 to deny your $1500 claim"

[ilertargenthorne]

Insurance companies will do anything not to insure.

[firedingo]

I think how your client responded is exactly right. They noted the surveillance, emailed you and gave good details about the context. It generates a paper trail and as you said, if it goes on long enough, then it becomes harassment and stalking which is where a paper trail is excellent for proving it.

[XYZdude]

This happened to my dad after he got hurt at work. But since he stayed home and we live in a farm out in the country he was able to spot them a mile away

[TheWabbit]

My ex-employer had me followed for 30 days, i knew of about 20 of them, I hurt myself at work, middle of the work day and had their Dr send me for an MRI which showed the injury, so it wasnt a fake claim. they spent 5 years trying to fight the claim and in the end i found out my State has a limit on workers comp claims, whether by statute or practice I dont know. they spent a fortune sending me to physical rehab which wasnt working while refusing a surgery I needed. They were paying $700 a day to have 2 people follow me for the month and the only evidence they got helped my case. They also lost my medical records ( I knew they would pull anything they could after the first couple weeks so I got a full copy of my medical records and copies of subsequent visits) My attorney was very happy. Still I'm the one who can barely walk now and my state helped them screw me over, My attorney did the best He could, and for that, I'm grateful.

[roybiv]

My friend was a very extroverted gym rat who got flying lessons from an idiot in an SUV. He really was hurt. His lawyer calls him pissed because the investigator saw him go into the gym. Luckily there's footage of him just talking & stretching with the trainer, but too sore to do much. Case continues. He confides in me one daythat that he thinks he's being followed everywhere by cameras to which I say, "Like that "tourist" in a yellow sundress with the zoom lense over there?" I saw him die a little inside. I told him that I would go say hi for him, but she left before I got there. He was never the same in so many ways.

[FuzeRG]

Instead of hiring professional stalkers and fleets of lawyers they could just pay out the insurance claims 😭

[mayfaire]

This happened to a coworker who hurt her back at work. She decided to mess with the people following her. She had a neighbor call the police to report two strangers sitting in a van in front of her house for hours at a time. She walked up to them and said that she is walking to the store to get cigarettes and had them follow her at a walking pace for seven blocks there and back. She also knocked on their window and asked them if they had enough gas to go to the beach, and if not, they'd better get some because her friend would be there to pick her up in an hour.

[lauriequinn]

Retired home health nurse here: I got into my patients house. He goes close the door close the door. He said is there a white Cadillac across the street parked he said be real sneaky. Looking out. He had me go in the bedroom to look out, I said yes. Anyway, he consulted with Neighbor who snuck up on the car with a gun and held the person at gunpoint they identified themselves as an investigator with the state disability provider. My patient was a prison guard who had been injured and was off on disability. Dangerous thing to do because the prison guards are very mindful, that sometimes families of inmates will attempt to harm or threaten workers in the prisons at the beast of their family members that are inside, so they are trained to pay attention to anything strange in their environment. The neighbor told him he would shoot him if he ever saw him again. I don’t think he ever did see him again.

[Pennywise]

My wife helped with insurance defense while she was in law school. The stuff (usually videos) people posted on their Facebook page while they had a bad insurance claim in process is nuts. Lady making a claim about a bad back injury posted daily videos of herself dancing at the club.

[brittanymiller]

My grandma dated a man who worked at a company for 25 years and he often complained that the things he had to do were stressing his shoulders out over the many years and they didn't do anything to help and ended up tearing his rotator cuff bad at work doing that task and needed surgery and time off of work. And was on workman's comp to pay for that. They fought it hard. The doctors told him he couldn't pick anything up that was more than 1lb. He has a garage he uses like a man cave. For many months every day, a vehicle would be parked right outside of the driveway with a full mount and camcorder pointed right at him. It was creepy. He would go up to the vehicle and ask why they were watching him and at first, they denied they were watching him. Obviously lying. He continued to ask them here and there and the guy finally told him he was just doing his job. He worked for the company with their insurance and had to watch him to try and catch him doing something the doctors claimed he couldn't do with the injury such as holding something that weighed more than 1lb or raising his arms over his shoulders. The man felt ashamed for what he did and apologized but explained he still had to do his job. I think they should have called the cops since it happened every day, not only in his garage but when he left the house as well.

[opinion_panda]

I can see Mike’s information going from “fun fact” to “saved my ass” faster than most people can imagine

[benjaminmatheny]

I knew a trucker who had this happen to him. Screwed up his back when his rig got rear ended, and he couldn't pass the physical to drive commercially anymore. During the resulting lawsuit, his lawyer told him he needed to work (they were suing for future losses as the income he could earn was lost from losing the ability to drive, and they didn't want to look like he was just looking the never work again). So he got a part time position at a campground. The survailence team took grainy photos of him carrying Balsa wood for a group, but claimed it was a railroad tie to the judge. He was on a weight restriction, and because the judge believed them he was ruled uninjured, even though he still couldn't pass the physical when he could pre-accident.

[BillyAbshier]

As someone disabled with an autoimmune condition (similar to MS) i find this incredibly frustrating and frightening (even if i 'understand' it). At my healthiest, i can walk with just the aid of a cane, and (if i shuffle my feet) can take a few steps without it. But if i get sick, my immune system attacks my nerves (especially in my feet/legs) and I'm back in a wheelchair (followed by PT to build up strength to walk again). Because i rarely venture out when sick and in a wheelchair, very few people who ever see me in public understand how 'disabled' i am. Scary to think i might be judged only on my very, very best hours of my very best days when they never see the days of recovery I'll need for that one hour out.

[mattb]

My dad was surveilled for years even though he was genuinely injured.
The funniest thing was when he finally went to court we got a copy of those documents and the notes expressed frustration and even admiration that he spent so much time and effort “appearing” injured that it was almost as if he was genuinely in pain.
We knew it was just an angle to give the impression there might be wrong doing but even the judge found it funny.

[angelalopez]

I was injured on the job and working within my limitations while awaiting a surgery date. I had a vindictive supervisor suddenly tell me there was no work available and to stay home. She sent OIG investigators to my home for 4 weeks straight. I learned a lot. They usually drive indistinct SUV's with tinted windows that are slightly opened, park in the shade, and when they follow you, they rarely get directly behind you, instead, stay one lane over one or two car lengths back. I stayed boring as hell and rarely went outside. As soon as I had a surgery date, they stopped showing up.

[stevenn]

Imagine having to get a restraining order against your insurance agency..

[IMMERS]

I may not be injured or filing a false claim, but im prepared i never go outside.

[beemerwt]

That's wild. I never even thought about the possibility that you're being watched when insurance doesn't want to make a big payout. Goes to show that you should genuinely follow doctor's orders and talk to your lawyer about what you need to do because one slip-up and you could be out hundreds of thousands of dollars in bills you now have to pay.

[natdatil]

Allstate hit my dad with that shit when I was a teen. They were on the top floor of a nearby office building watching our front door. 20 years later he still suffers PTSD, but they got away with paying him peanuts after their customer permanently removed him from the labor market in his mid, 40s