E85 vs Methanol Injection SMACKDOWN

Watch this video discussing the benefits and drawbacks of E85 vs Methanol injection.

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[Novi]

Great info. I run meth on my boosted foxbody. Two things I can add to the article:
1. Meth is easily available for cheap. Running automotive window washer fluid (non-glycol) is a 50/50 mix. Here in the summer of Arizona I'm able to keep my IAT (Intake Air Temp) at 100 degrees under full boost.
2. I've had meth failure during a test and tune session at the track. Long story short, my boost signal to the controller failed. The vac line came off. My motor was saved because I added a failsafe in my tune. I added a tune in the event my IATs got above normal temps at full boost. The tune simply retards timing for these types of situations.

[myfavoritemartian]

The closest E85 station is 25 miles away. So, after I get home, I need to turn around and go back to fill up again.

[PepeRoldan]

Please do an E85 vs. methanol/water injection dyno back-to-back smackdown. That's what I had expected to see.

[tattsngunzz]

This works out great for me as I’m running a boosted stock block 350z HR @11psi 500rwhp. There’s no e85 upstate NY or over the Canadian border near me. With 11.1 compression on pump gas 93octane is worrisome.

[Hamza-orjm]

Forgot to mention that e85 burns cooler on average 10 to 15 degrees cooler engine temps and not have to worry about meth injection pumps going out or nozzles clogging up.

[Sammydoozer]

Love that end comment that you would run both! Classic!

[thateffinguy]

So I bought a sac of meth but the dude that sold it to me told to inject it into my arm, how will this help with boost?

[KareemAbawi]

Subscribed to your channel... Very informative content and professional delivery

[christianmiller]

Just won a new subscriber lol! I just switched my cobra swapped Mach back to 93 cause its so hard to find e85 and Im looking into a meth kit to run some more boost. But I might have to try your last suggestion lol, Ive got an expensive return style fuel system already so this would be great for me!

[derpinbird]

Methanol injection can also be used as an alternative if your engine bay is too small to run an intercooler. You can also set the system to run on distilled water instead or a mixture of the two.

[tdawg]

forgot to mention you need bigger injectors and pump for e85, also that you water meth steam cleans the motor

[stephenmwyatt]

My car is on METH now and it got skinny and started picking its grill

[myronybarra]

You missed a few facts; E85 that is combusted puts a lower thermal load on the engine, like 15 - 20% lower peak EGT's over gas/methanol injection which lowers overall coolant/oil temps and reduced heat cycling of headers. This is especially useful for road raced cars. E85 also lowers in cylinder IAT better than gas (236 degree drop vs 75 degree in cylinder temp) and depending on where it's injected (port vs direct) it can also be calculated w/IAT sensor plumbed after the injection allowing for more accurate tuning.  

One of the negative issues E85 has that also wasn't mentioned is given that E85 stoich ratio is 9.765 air to 1 E85, there is a higher likelihood of oil dilution during cold start as a result of loose piston/ring to wall clearances during start-up so oil changes will need to be more frequent to maintain oil integrity and reduce engine wear. Otherwise, good info.

[JonDoeSecure]

Methanol is readily available... all you need is winter windshield fluid, -25 is 35% methanol. -50 is 65% methanol. You can also get heet at any parts store, which is methanol.

[almtyscuzzy]

Thank you for mentioning Failsafes, very important when you run a Water/Methanol kit.

[bravo]

Thanks to your videos I'm running both lol

[msengineeringdavid]

I've seen ppl get best power by using both I'd love to see you test that out.

[AtticAZ]

I'm lovin' my E33 tune. There's not as much of a drop in mph as with full e85 and you still get more powa. Yeah you have to mix at the pump. But it's simple once you understand it. E85 tunes can be on demand, as well for street or strip. Cobb Accessport, SCT tuner, VersaTune. I was on our crappy AZ 91 oct map for 4 days and just flipped over to the E33 on my last fill up. Gigity. #Cornlife

[PabloThaGreat]

There should be a video of running both e85 on a flex fuel kit with a water meth injection. 7:35 I’d love to see what the Benefits of running both are and what the best approach would be.

[henryrosado]

It's any gain if you already running e85 and you add a met kit ? Since met cool down the intake manifold.