The Noisy and Crazy Cobblestones in Lviv, Ukraine

Lviv is a beautiful city architecturally, with a broad spectrum of styles and forms from throughout it's history: Polish, Austrian-Hungarian, Soviet. But let's talk about the cobblestones. They are rough and they are noisy and they dominate the soundscape and urban landscape in the city. It makes it hard to transition into a more walkable or bikeable city when you have such a dominant cobblestone culture beneath your feet/wheels and above the ground with crazy high noise pollution.

In Copenhagen, the decibel limit is 58 for noise in residential areas. In Lviv it can average in the high 80s on cobblestone streets.

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[martinpennaste]

I'd prefer to keep cobblestones and make it an area for pedestrians, cafes, small sit-out places etc. Motorized traffic could be only allowed for emergencies, for the people living there and certain times for delivering goods to shops/cafes etc.

[mshkotnyar]

The key problem is that for many people, the cobblestones on the streets are part of the historical heritage and the overall image of the city. You can partially agree with this, but the disadvantages of such a coating (and there are many of them) for at least the part of the street with heavy traffic, in my opinion, outweigh it.

We have a lot of discussions on this issue, and so far it doesn't look like the trend is changing

[Kaisersozze]

To me the sound is a bit magical, I live in Canada but can only hear the sound when I visit Europe and my home city of Wroclaw. It works best for small streets where both the traffic and speed limit is low. I agree that major roads shouldn't have it.

[golyj]

The problem is - cobblestone fans rarely can take part in civilized discussion with pros & cons arguments. Every time I've tried to discuss then end was same - i was blamed to be cosmopolite, proletarian, immigrant from village and soviet :)

[murdelabop]

One advantage to cobblestones is that they make drivers slow down. I live on a brick street, and I wouldn't change it.

[dolinsky]

they're also horrible for cyclist and could turn slippery for pedestrians. BUT could you address their advantages? it's not just "heritage." isn't it also the cost of pavement? the ongoing maintenance of pavement? the environmental cost of pavement? the advantage of using a cheap local element as stone? in warmer cities, it is the heat generated by pavement?
i too lose my mind over cobblestone, but offer some expert counters, please.

[tryagain]

Also a big problem in Sofia, Bulgaria

[millik]

This is our history and symbol of Lviv.

[loureat_nob]

Agree, somewhere it's too much cobble