Drag Kids To Pride? Girl Defined VS DRAG - A MOCKERY OF GOD'S DESIGN FOR WOMANHOOD!!!

What are your opinions on the "drag the kids to pride" event? Girl Defined gets TRIGGERED!

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[cfgp]

this is the internet lady! we don't do nuance here.

on a serious note: i agree. drag is fine. taking kids to an adult show is not. teaching kids that drag is fine is also fine, and taking them to places where people who do drag, who are trans, are gay or any other color of the rainbow, are actively present (like the library events). but not strip clubs. the same way that you don't teach sexuality by looking up porn on the internet.

[Barb.u]

Totally agree. This only gives people like girl defined the opportunity to say “We told you so, these kind of things are wrong and shouldn’t exist” 😞

[Lysandra_Bouquet]

I 100% agree with you and I’m non-binary and a part of the Lgbtq community in other ways too. It’s the kids being at a night club at an event of a sexual nature that bothered me. I love the idea of kids being exposed to drag queens outside of that.

[DeathPetalArt]

I appreciate the nuance, & agree 100%. Wholesome child-friendly entertainment does not magically transform into p0rn just because a performer wears bright makeup, a glittery gown, & a voluminous wig.

[goldenwanderer]

I really appreciate you calling to attention that the issue here is the location/content of the show, and NOT the identity of the performers. I would be absolutely comfortable bringing my nieces and nephews to an event featuring performers in drag, as long as the venue and event itself are age-appropriate. It's a shame that people are so hyper-focused on being homophobic/transphobic that they can't see the real issues here.

[blueismylove]

We need to be teaching kids that there is a time and a place to wear certain things. You can't wear a bikini in a library but you can wear it at the beach. You probably shouldn't wear a suit to a spa but you can wear it to a wedding. Like you said, there are drag events that are child friendly however I think the parents should have known better to take their kids to the one where they're handing the drag performers money. When they saw what was happening kids should have been taken home immediately. Also, shame on the drag performers for being okay with this and taking money from kids.

[Ali-znsg]

My little cousin LOVES drag queens. She loves RuPaul, everything. But did we take her to a night club to see drag queens for her 8th birthday? No of course not! We’re civilized.

We took her to the drag queen brunch. Like ladies. ❤

[ariaurre]

I appreciate the nuance. I started being a Drag King & love to do family-oriented shows & events. I love Drag King story hour & I love lip syncing & playing guitar, & I hate to see how Drag is always associated with a sexual-nature since none of my shows are sexual in any way. I wish there was more public diversity in Drag.

[venessalipps]

As a Trans woman, I'm with you on this. Kids need not be at strip club environment. Love to all my drag queen sisters!

[GamersOver]

This really shouldn't be a gay or straight issue at all. I wouldn't want my nine or 10 year old child male or female, walking into a strip club of any kind. I have absolutely nothing against strippers at all. I dated one for a decade and had two kids with her. This is about exposing children to over sexualized environments regardless on whether it's an LGBT environment or a straight environment. It should be a safe environment for children.

[AlleyBetwixt]

Honestly don't think this take is that controversial. A huge amount of drag queens feel exactly as you do, that the typical night club drag gig is inappropriate for children and are pretty loud about not wanting to see kids at their shows.

I've seen lots of interesting conversations between queens about this stuff on podcasts or shows since drag has become mainstream so quickly in recent years. Lots of adaptation and figuring out how to continue their work while the demographics of their audiences have changed dramatically.

Different queens, shows, or events are inevitably not going to all agree where the line is, but that's a lot more thoughtful, nuanced conversation than the ones bigots are having about it. The ones marked as 'family friendly' are vastly less raunchy and overt, and focused on fun dancing and pretty costumes.

One thing I'd note is that most kids seeing a show like this will be totally oblivious to the sexual stuff that adults see in it. The same way that a lot of kids cartoons/movies will have subtle mature jokes for the adults watching that are completely missed by kids. Children will just see it as a spectacular version of 'playing dress-up' and paying performers for their work. The parents are wanting to normalize people presenting themselves in diverse ways in a celebratory atmosphere to their kids, feeling THAT is the valuable lesson taken from the event. Associations with sexual stuff, stripping, sex work, whatever, won't even register for kids. They just love the sparkle and dancing.

[kathrynbishop]

Locally we have multiple drag bars but we have one that does drag brunch and are always kid-friendly. There is a time and place for everything. I believe kids should be exposed to as many different and SAFE environments/people as possible. There is nothing wrong with kids meeting and watching drag queens in kid-friendly environments. At the end of the day, kids are gonna see it eventually as they get older or curious. I'd rather them learn it with a responsible adult in a safe environment than to discover it in an inappropriate way. If it says kid friendly, it'll be fine.

[hennybecca]

There's a reason there are age restrictions on night clubs. Doesn't mean you need to give a shit who is dancing or singing, or what they're wearing. Night clubs (or at whatever time during the day) are generally considered not to be appropriate places for children to hang out.

[joelk]

I totally agree that all children should be exposed to non-sexualised drag as it opens their minds about other communities that exist and promotes acceptance, so they (especially boys) don't grow up bullying other kids who behave or appear differently to them. This doesn't just apply to lgbtq+ kids/teenagers but simply all kids who don't fit in with the norm.

[andrew..]

Thank you so much for this middle of the road take on the situation! Finally a response to this girl defined video I agree with!

[corruptedscarecrow]

shouldn't the people being outraged right now be talking about the parents who'd take their kids to nightclubs and not the dragqueens..? I don't understand some people 👁️👄👁️

[Rudolph]

I don’t think it’s a bad thing for children to go to nude beaches as long as they have supervision, because most nude beaches aren’t sexualized spaces, and children can experience the naked body in a healthy way

[samb]

I am in the same range as you with this. I wouldn't take my kids to a drag show at a bar. I did take one of them to a charity drag show at my uni but that wasn't sexualized, it was more about acceptance of different expressions and there was no money or nudity. And on the subject of nudity, I don’t think that is inherently negative for any age. I'd never let my kids near a nude beach in the U.S. but there are places in the world that nudity is just going natural and doesn't have to do with sexualizing anything.

[hazeelise]

I agree with you. the sexualization with children present makes me uncomfortable. an ACTUAL family-friendly drag show for kids would be awesome. like you said-- have them dress up in regular beautiful dresses and sing disney songs or something like that!

[starryserenades]

I don’t have a problem with kids giving drag performers money - it shows the kids that performers do deserve to be paid. That’s not an issue, imo. Don’t put the money in the waistband of an outfit or something, but giving money in general is not bad.

I think drag events for kids (and pride events for kids) should be a little more sanitized. While we SHOULD teach kids that bodies are bodies and clothing is clothing, but I don’t think that we need to throw them in a more sexualized situation like that. As a queer person, we ALL know what people are saying about our community, I just don’t think we need to fan that flame personally.