Ejection 049 - David Ross Ejected For Second Consecutive Game Arguing HBP Intentionality

Ross was ejected the prior night for arguing a warnings/ejection no-call after Cincinnati's Hunter Strickland hit Chicago batter Patrick Wisdom an inning after Reds batter Joey Votto took an inside, head-high fastball during a four-pitch walk.

Contreras, who hit a home run earlier in the game ultimately won by Cincinnati with a score of 20-5, was the only hit batter of the game; no warnings had previously been issued.

[pavanatanaya]

If the Reds were beating my team by 8, I would also want to leave

[Suzyrn]

If a pitcher truly did not mean to hit a batter why can't he simply hold up his hand and gesture that he didn't mean to like in tennis. By simply saying "that's my fault" would stop a lot of this fighting

[willisnewton]

The "unwritten" rules have existed since day 1. Baseball unlike other sports, has no way of settling "beefs" so we're left with HBPs.

I agree with how it was handled and had the Cubs followed up by hitting a Reds hitter, we issue warnings.

[TheMajorr]

I don't know that I agree with your assessment here. Even if we take the events game in a vacuum, showboat home runs and blowouts have a tendency to lead to more intentional HBP. Whether it's an unwritten rule or not, it happens, and this happened to be guy who showboated on the HR, and the team getting blown out got hit. More chance for retaliation. Get together, issue soft warning (no huge demonstrations) so that any retaliation doesn't result in these philosophical questions.

[nukeboy]

David Ross realllly wanted out of this ass kicking.😂

[Fire]

I don't understand why the conference didn't happen. I don't think it was intentional, but it seems like if you have a conference you answer Ross' concern. Talk about it, then say to Ross, "we don't believe it was intentional." If he argues then, the ejection is warranted. I wouldn't even issue warnings as that opens a whole can of worms afterwards that no one wants. Just my thoughts.

[kendalhale]

Good reminder, if a coach is heated and is not asking you a question, you do not have to respond. Nod, say okay and go on with your business.

[andreymalov]

Will did a good job, first by escorting the BR and then calmly listening to what Ross had to say.

[hammerhiem]

Someone explain to me why it's normal to throw at someone if a pitcher "gets upset" but not normal for a pitcher to appologise strraight away if he hits someone accidently.

Sometimes the attitude of baseball is baffling.

[danielhetue]

Ross just snapped and seemingly had enough of watching his Cubs get beaned by the Reds. Just a perfect time for him to get tossed out of the game while trailing by 8 runs in the top of the 7th inning.

[kevindavis]

I wonder if Conroy and Ross argued about who knew more about baseball here, like they did in the previous game.

[garygemmell]

EVERY sport has it's unwritten rules. Yet, it seems like baseball is the only one that has back bench bomb throwers criticizing them.

[ronpeacock]

I think this is a case that Ross had seen enough of this game and needed an excuse to leave early. Down 13-5... and this pitch looked a lot like last nights.. a tailing 2 seemer that hit him in the mid-section... if this one (or the one yesterday) were intentional.. I have to compliment on not being in the ear hole area... neither last night to this game appeared to have any bad blood. I think the umps did the correct thing.

[TroyVan]

Would warnings have been appropriate to head off any HBP in the bottom of the inning?

[minaeldiwany]

The umpires should not get together and decide whether to eject the pitcher or not it’s the home plate umpire’s decision.

[dawhoda]

why would he be grilling Greene when Joel is one who rocked him

[michaelfalkner]

Agreed totally on Lindsey's views of the Unwritten Rules.

[aydin]

Literally everyone in the comments and this video is completely wrong David Ross was just arguing with the umps cuz they did not even discuss the fact that it could be an intentional hit by pitch which in my mind it was Contreras already went deep and he had beef with Voto the other game and you kinda sound like a Cinci fan in this video

[darkarima]

Started watching this expecting to see that Contreras had low-key dramatized it despite no evidence of intent, but the umpires ejected the pitcher anyway to avoid worse drama. He does that. No such thing here, though.
Yes, there's a difference between "pitcher is hypersensitive to exuberant celebration" and "batter being a d*** rubbing it in the pitcher's face", and this was the latter. That's still *never* an excuse for assault.

[jonjohnson]

Ross has been a BUST since day one! Get rid of him!!