The Rise and Fall of Tim Burton

To anyone watching this video from 21st august 2024 the part about Beetlejuice 2 had to be edited out due to a copyright claim from Warner bros. Ultimately I said that the sequel is coming out this year and has said to go back to using a majority of practical effects instead of cgi and he is bringing back a few of the original cast members and jenna ortega who he worked with in Wednesday.
Maybe this could end up being the film that “brings Tim button back!” If you want to see the edited out part dm me on instagram I’m happy to send it ☺️ take care all

Tim Burton career from the uniqueness and the weird and wacky of what Made a Tim Burton film into the slow decent of remakes and losing the Burton-esque touch. Discussing Wednesday Addams and how Beetlejuice 2 ( Beetlejuice Beetlejuice ) could lead to the resurgence of Tim Burton.

Watch Broey Deschanel incredible video

Chapters
0:00 intro
0:21 What made Tim Burton unique
1:09 When Burton-Esque isn’t enough
3:24 The switch to CGI and The Disney fallout
6:53 Wednesday Addams
3:46 Pretty Privilege
8:58 Beetlejuice 2 and The resurgence of Tim Burton?
10:53 Why Tim Burtons films don’t hit the same
11:40 Favourite Tim Burton film and predictions for Beetlejuice 2?
11:55 outro

SOURCES :

Interviews -

Tim Burton on Bob Costas, 1992
Tim Burton on His Life and Movies Coming Full Circle with 'Frankenweenie' - The Hollywood Reporter
DP/30: director Tim Burton
Jenna Ortega on ‘Insane’ Experience Shooting Beetlejuice 2 (Exclusive) - Entertainment Tonight
Michael Keaton Has Seen 'Beetlejuice 2' - SiriusXM

Articles -
Why Is Tim Burton Done with the "Horrible Big Circus" at Disney? - Oct 26, 2022

Tim Burton on His Life and Movies Coming Full Circle with ‘Frankenweenie’ - FEBRUARY 17, 2013

The Actors Who Have Appeared In The Most Tim Burton Movies - 25 September 2023

Absence of Limitation: The Fall of Tim Burton -
Dec 2, 2023

Special effects and realism in “Alice in Wonderland” - MARCH 26, 2017

Tim Burton Explains Why He ‘Particularly Loves’ Wednesday Addams - OCT. 19, 2022

Tim Burton has built his career around an iconic visual aesthetic. Here’s how it evolved. - Apr 17, 2019

⚠︎︎ credits to any clips used in this video. contains material that comes under fair use ⚠︎︎

Follow and support the channel:

Edited by me! ( if you want me to edit for you feel free to contact me )

audio
Epidemic sound + YouTube audio library

[AbbieRee]

To anyone watching this video from 21st august 2024 the part about Beetlejuice 2 had to be edited out due to a copyright claim from Warner bros. Ultimately I said that the sequel is coming out this year and has said to go back to using a majority of practical effects instead of cgi and he is bringing back a few of the original cast members and jenna ortega.
Maybe this could end up being the film that “brings Tim button back!” If you want to see the edited out part dm me on instagram I’m happy to send it ☺️ take care all

[Linklex]

Tim Burton didn’t actually direct Nightmare Before Christmas. Henry Selick did.

[jollygrapefruit]

I remember when Coralline came out and I was 100% certain it was a Tim Burton film, only to find out it was actually Henry Selick. Then, I researched him and realized Henry Slick was actually responsible for a lot of beloved films people just credit Tim Burton for, for whatever reason. Henry Selicks early student projects are quite something, too. I highly recommend diving into his work.

[neonatalpenguin]

Since the mid-2000s, Burton has been led by his audience instead of leading them.

In the 90s, the consumer wasn’t exactly crying out for a weirdo goth filmmaker inspired by Fritz Lang, Vincent Price and drive-in sci-fi movies. But when Burton gave them these projects, they absolutely ate them up precisely because they wanted an artist with a unique vision.

Since then, I think societal expectations have favoured entertainment above art (there are some obvious financial reasons for this), and so the demand is now for franchise stories dressed in a Tim Burton skinsuit.

[STICKFilmProductions]

I think Burton started losing his edge with Planet of the Apes. Aside from Big Fish and Corpse Bride, he just felt like a typical studio director with only his aesthetics giving some life to bland performances and undercooked stories. I believe he needs to work on something personal again, and hopefully animated.

[CZsWorld]

I lost it when he said Dumbo was an autobiographical film. 😆 (An adaptation of a movie that came out a decade before he was born) The elephants may not have gotten drunk this time, but he certainly was.

[Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ]

Personally, I feel he's similar to Grimes.

He was counterculture and indie, I think (or that's what I've heard about his lore).

But then, he got absorbed by "The Culture", he became mainstream.

He wasn't this creepy, mad genius hit machine anymore, he became part of the establishment.

That's issue N. 1.

Issue N. 2. is that well, it seems he lost his originality and charm, his creativity.

The last good film he had that I remember was Frankenweenie.

The world moved on and he refused to reinvent himself, because when you have everyone kissing your rear for simply breathing, unless you are truly committed, you can afford to live on the rotting scraps of your old work, which is what he's doing.

[ikkhltd]

I think it’s a shame Batman Returns wasn’t that well received when it came out. It is his masterpiece.

[dakota.sage]

I was so excited when I saw that Tim Burton was working on Wednesday, and I loved how in the opening shot of the first episode the school is really colorful, but Wednesday and Pugsly look like they're in black and white. Then when she went to Nevermore everything got desaturated and it just seemed like Burton gave up his visual storytelling for an aesthetic.

[mizuko]

I remember hearing the announcement of him doing Alice in Wonderland and just being so excited. Because of course that sounds like it’s gonna be incredible. But instead it was this weird CGI epic final battle chosen one movie. Not the creative movie I thought it would be.

[nicklundy]

Honestly, i think not getting Burton to direct the two Addams Family animated features was a major missed opportunity.

[careyatchison]

Nightmare before Christmas is not directed by Tim Burton. It was an idea he had and he produced it but It was directed by Henry Selick with songs mostly written by Danny Elfman.

[AbbieRee]

I forgot to mention in the video that.
Tim burton didn’t actually direct The nightmare before Christmas which is based on a poem Burton wrote in 1981. Henry Selick directed the film Burton was simply a producer.

Edited :
Thank you for those who pointed out that it was the everlasting gobstopper that Charlie returned not the fizzy lifting drink.

[Kurasunoninki-sha]

as much grief as i give Tim Burton movies since the early 2000's, i still love his early movies and i have to give him credit for essentially creating a separate genre of film just called Tim Burton movies. i realised that when i was resorting my physical media collection and i had all my movies sorted into different genres but with the exception of the Batman movies had his movies all together in one genre.

[bendu]

Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Movie was actually closer to The Book then the ironic version we all know & love, Tim Burton’s adaptation is more faithful the that source material.

[atlanta]

Tim Burton is one of these creatives I never totally felt. Edward Scissorhands is a masterpiece. And he directed many movies that I liked. But also a lot that put me off. I will say though that he is indeed a true artist! He has a vision and a spine. Yes, he has contradicted himself many times. I think that's because he's somewhat troubled, and maybe that's what fuels his creativity. The world would be worse off without people like him.

[lynnpehrson]

I think one problem with Burton is that he allowed/hired people to do the work for him (pretty early on in his career) but excepted and people gave him credit for his films as if he was like an auteur. Because of this Tim Burton slowly Became a brand, which was progressively watered down.

[ascorvinus]

I saw Pee Wee’s Big Adventure in the theater when I was a kid and it’s still my favorite. It’s perfectly engineered to turn the crank on a little kid’s imagination.

[gadflyfiction]

It is a common pattern with a lot of artists, it is most apparent with musicians though, wherein they do well with one style or concept and replicate it for a while but then change to try new things. These new styles/concepts are no where near as well received as those that gave the artist success, firstly because it is not what the cultivated audience of the artist wanted, and second because the artist doesn't have the requisite skill set for the new stuff (they are still developing and learning at this point). Usually the artist either then returns to their original style or they continue to explore and develop the new style to varying degrees of master. Tim Burton seems to be returning more to his original style, though whether or not he recaptures it is another question that will only be answered in time.

[Bamgeutcutiepie]

love this topic... i have always loved his films... for me, i started noticing he had changed a lot, in the miss peregrine's home for peculiar children.... it felt childish in a really bad way. same feeling i got for Wednesday. it's like he lost his magic OR just doesn't care about the same things anymore. his focus point seem to be somewhere else. almost feels like an imitation of himself.