4 Things I've Learned While Bowling Two-Handed

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[gorriebyte]

I just bowled a 222 last night using my ion pro that I used for the first time. I've played maybe 15 times total over about 2 months since I started and I recently switched to two hand. The big thing I'm trying to figure out is power. I can't get over 16 mph. I really enjoy your content and Packy from the house bowling. You both have helped a lot for me learning how to bowl.

[jp_spareparts]

Great tips Darren! I'd also like to see what the differences in tucking your right elbow in during backswing like Belmo/Vai/Packy vs having a straight arm back swing like you/Troup/Simo. Might just be a preference thing, but I started with a straight arm back swing but found that tucking my elbow allowed me to generate more power and revs.

[BBBYpsi]

Been thinking at my old age of trying 2 handed & these are great tips. Thank you Darren

[DunFallOffAYY]

I have played two handed for 9 years, before the two handed hype begin. Tip 1 is the most important thing that will make or break a shot, as it severely impacts how your ball will hook. Even the most minute mistake can make you leave a pin 5/9/10. What Darren was explaining on 01:06 is also an excellent tip. In my opinion, a lot of people forget or don't realize is that even though it's called 2 handed bowling, you are still releasing the ball like one handed just like on 02:59 (used this as it starts exactly where he releases the ball). Knowing that, I placed my palm on the position that where I will usually have while playing 1 handed, and the ball never crossed my middle finger since.

[ianhoneycutt]

I've been bowling two handed for about two years now, and I've been bowling in general for about fourteen. I cannot tell you how real tip number one really is. Tips two and three can vary between bowler, But one and four are absolutely the most important ones. If I had known about tip 1 last july, I would have scored about 100 places better in Jr Gold Indianaplois. Tip 4 cannot happen without tip 1 being mastered first either, trust me I tried. I am eagerly awaiting the next two handed video

[TheCountChocolitis]

Something I have been doing that's been helping me a ton is how I'm holding the ball before my push away. I went from holding it similar to you, to cradling it in front of me with both hands, it helps me keep my elbow inside starting at the push and helps with keeping my 2nd hand on the ball to support the weight.

[CliftonDon]

Thanks Darren and the Tang Dynasty crew for sharing this 2 handed journey. Throwing 2 hands is definitely fun. Being a 1 handed lefty, I play around with 2 handed righty. It feels more natural for me to throw that style righty.

[iamrokmusik]

When you're talking about your off hand slipping on the ball during the back swing, the thing I have found that i really prefer is a tacky feeling on the ball with my off hand. Where the ball isn't slipping at all and my off hand is controlling the weight of the ball way more. I usually blow into my hands on the approach to create that vapor tack between my hands and the ball. I really have to do this with low grit finished balls like the Jackal Ambush (1000 grit) and even the Jackal Ghost (3000 grit). The pearls and hybrids, I still do this with but it isn't always necessary.

[Sphynxx]

For the knuckles it’s another thing you can think about when wanting to speed up or slow down. The less of your knuckle in the ball, the less friction off your hand and more ball speed. More knuckle will create more friction with ball and slower ball speed.

[dbhank]

Gotta say, your demonstration for hand placement and keeping it under the ball was wonderful. One of the constant things I'm being told is that I'm not behind/under the ball enough but none of the coaches have ever told me how to be better at it and my attempts have all resulted in me injuring my wrist.

Fantastic video Darren!

[jakebrawn]

Great descriptions and demonstrations on what to do where to keep your hand in the setup and the difference with first time and 2 tip on your fingers. Definitely helped

[canefan]

Finally a 2Hand tip video that gets into the finer details.

I’d also love to hear how Darren and Mikey get their 2H release so close to their slide foot. Wondering if feeling like you’re throwing a backup ball would help. Or if it’s a shoulder rotation thing.

[XxDEMPOxX]

I've been a 2 hander for 5+ years and while I knew some of this, the video as a whole was very insightful ❤

[BooyaCS]

I throw no thumb 1 handed. I hold it like Tom Daugherty. My fingers are under the ball on the left hand side (watch how his hand is in the ball thats natural for me) and when I release it my fingers are completely under the ball. PAP is 5-> .75 up i can roll it to change the pap to 5.25 and get around it more to change to 4.75. I drill to the avg (5).

I use tape on my fingers and go to just past the first knuckle. My fingers are similar to simo where it is so tight i don't feel it.

Also my fingers are .5 .5 (left and right) 1" Rev on both fingers. I roll it better. Belmo (if i remember right) is 7/16 left and right 1" rev

Osku is 7/8" rev and 1/2 right and left. Also you may want to drill the fingers deeper (I drill all mine to 3" deep (slug depth on innovative press)).

Darren. My suggestion (if you want to play around with pitches) is to keep the ring finger pitch but at least have the middle finger as 1/2 left (-.500 depending on the press). I don't have a good way to show video of what I am talking about however I like my ball roll and nothing seems to "jump" off the spot (so it is pretty forward).

The 1" rev will flatten your hand out on the ball and will help with staying behind it whether you go conventional depth or finger tip depth. When I drill for most 2 handers i roll their hand (like I would if i was lowering the track so more left in the middle finger) and leave the right in the ring finger alone. I used to have 1/4" difference in pitches between ring and middle finger (so 1/2 middle 3/4 ring) but I have settled on 1" (arthritis as well as comfort) the 1/2" in the fingers (Left and Right) I don't really feel.

Using turbo inserts i use a 51 and 47 then tape my fingers (actual size is 25 or 3/4 middle and 23 ring but I use the tape and bigger sizes to adjust grip pressure). By also using the larger size isnserts I can (if i want) adjust my finger depth within the ball so it is the best of both worlds.

[leonkennedy]

Thank you for the tips Darren! Super excited that you're switching styles. You are a really good teacher and, have taught me a lot. You and Packy have been my internet coaches during my 2 handed journey. I just started bowling regularly last year at 30 years old and, you have been a tremendous source of knowledge for me. Keep it up mate! an good luck!

[WatchAaronBowl]

Thanks Darren, excellent video explaining and with the visual examples it was really helpful.

[alexdevargas]

This was very helpful i broke my thumb really bad had surgery and forced to learn two handed. So far it's so much fun and I have glimpses of just how good I can be. Other nights it shows how little I know about 2 handed being a very traditional bowler my whole life. Just this week I shot 135 couldn't stay behind the ball then next game shot 247 effortless. Can't wait to implement this tips and help my new journey

[glennandersen]

Great video Darren I was wondering if 2 handed would be easier style of bowling for a bowler coming back from a shoulder injury

[BARBELLS-AND-BUDS]

The 2nd knuckle was my choice because i liked the better stability feeling.
I didn't have my other hand in a good position when I first tried two-handed.

That meant my dominant hand had the wrist break instead of being under the ball.

I now have both hands fingers touching and I haven't tried first knuckle to see if there's a difference now that I'm holding the ball better

[micahleis]

I appreciate this video. I've been trying to self-teach, with help from youtube, and these are some things (specifically tip #1) that I didn't even know how to search for an answer to. Thanks a lot, Darren.