Jesus and psychedelics in ancient times | Brian Muraresku and Lex Fridman

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Brian Muraresku is the author of The Immortality Key.

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[zactranten]

All of Lex’s guests are extremely knowledgeable in their own craft. But, Brian’s range of knowledge of language is mind blowing. Super cool.

[paxonearth]

If Lex and Ben Shapiro had a baby, it would speak at a normal speed.

[solshine]

I haven't heard anyone talk about the syrian rue "esfrand tea" and acacia teas thats are still used in the middle east today. The consumption of the 2 together will produce effects of ayahuasca. It seems more than coincidence that the art and architecture inside of a mosque is an imitation of the dmt relm..

[robinmckenzie]

"The Lord's Prayer" in Aramaic is absolutely psychedelic... "that which vibrates everything in sound and light."

[zuLess]

4:51 The book "the master and his emissary" really highlights this atomistic way of thinking.

[WSmith_]

From my experience/experimentation, I believe psychedelics/mediation/sound frequencies breaks down the barrier between our conscious and subconscious mind, allowing our conscious mind to experience our sub conscious thoughts, feelings and however I also believe, in our subconscious mind we can access the universal

One of my first truly breakthrough experiences, during my own experimentation was the words/feeling/communication I was experiencing, felt as if they were coming from someone/something/somewhere

Hey we've been waiting for don't be don't be your family is here with you don't really know him well, but he's family, he's it's (then proceeded to tell me a name) he's safe, he's here with us, he's your family don't worry, he's with us""""

3 days later I was with my mum and we were talking about our family and I was asking if any of my older family members had caught or been effected by c at first she said no.... then after a short pause she said her with the same name I had heard/felt/experienced 3 days before had been in a coma for 4 days with pneumonia and died the day after my I was gobsmacked and instantly began to feel an incredibly sadness this was one of the most profound experiences of my I had only ever met the man a few times and never really seen him or his family in my day to day life or on social media as I only use there had been no mention from anyone or way of me knowing about his predicament in the weeks prior.

I was a hard-core atheist before now I have a new found sense enlightenment amazement, fascination and desire to discover the world to which is there but we cannot see or experience, not in our normal state anyway.

Peace, power and freedom to all the psychonautics out

[NeanderdeOliveira]

Good closing quote. We, as a society, may access fantastical visions with drugs, but mystical experience can and has always been access with not much more than, meditation, prayer, and sometimes ritual. It’s what substance is made in the theater of the soul, not what substance to take to visit the theater.

[pamelajonesmd]

Terence McKenna's Food of the Gods a very well written look at psychedelics through history. A brilliant and humble guy, Terence.

[AlexandraArtzoglou]

I'm Greek and planning to get into Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy and I'm so excited to hear all of this😍

[ucantstopme]

Reading his book, and it is just packed with information/knowledge. Dude did his research for sure...

[beareggers]

1st century Jews like Jesus and his disciples would have avoided any practices that give the appearance of pagan worship. Certainly Paul who was a student of Gamaliel wouldn't have put up with it. When Paul tells the church in Corinth that women should be quiet, it is likely because the church was starting to appear like Corinth's temple to Athena. If Paul wouldn't allow Athenian worship, I doubt he would allow Dionysian worship.

[nikmills]

I like how the hoodie gives the feeling of a monk.

[odinallvater]

Fascinating to listen to this guy. If you’re in any shape or form on the path to self - improvement / discovery, his philosophies are a great puzzle piece for understanding self, and us as species collectively.
Being able to understand “objectively”, removed from egoistic judgement or interpretation through indoctrinated beliefs is of course key.

[michaelalexander]

A Christian isn't surprised when echoes of Dionysus appear in the Christian story. Same with Apollo, Zeus, Hermes, Athena, or whomever. The whole point of Christ is that He is All in All. While these Greek deities each highlight a particular human strength, Christ is the fulfillment of all good things.

[sondorp]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:

00:17 🌿 *Psychedelics in Classical Antiquity*
- Author's 12-year search for scientific data on psychedelic ritual use in ancient Greece and Rome.
- Exploration of written works from the 60s and 70s, lacking technology and hard scientific data.
- Uncovering key pieces of data indicating ritualistic use of psychedelic beer in Iberia and psychedelic wine near Pompeii.
02:21 🍷 *Psychedelic Infused Wine in Early Christianity*
- Discussion on the potential role of psychedelic-infused wine in the life of Jesus Christ.
- Analysis of ancient Greek language and the concept of wine as a mixed potion or "pharmacon."
- Reference to early Christian texts and the use of wine as a sacrament with divine significance.
05:11 📜 *Language and Perception of Wine*
- Examination of language's impact on perception, focusing on the ancient Greek word "oinos" and "pharmacon."
- Highlighting the use of the term "pharmacy" to describe wine and its role in ancient Greek thought.
- Connection between language, perception, and the understanding of wine in religious and ritual contexts.
08:02 🌐 *Dionysus and the Mysteries*
- Exploration of the role of wine, specifically the sacramental wine, in the mysteries of Dionysus.
- Discussion on how consuming the sacramental wine was seen as becoming one with the god Dionysus.
- Insight into the ancient Greek understanding of enthusiasm, being filled with the spirit of the god.
11:45 🍇 *Jesus and Dionysus Parallel*
- Analysis of parallels between Jesus and Dionysus, emphasizing the use of symbolism and miracles.
- Reference to the Wedding at Cana in the Gospel of John and its potential connection to Dionysian rituals.
- Interpretation of the continuity from pagan traditions, like the mysteries of Dionysus, into early Christianity.

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[LOVESPACEDREAMS]

I like how he refers to the 12 apostles as "a dozen or so, illiterate day labourers that go on to convert the empire in a few hundred years".

[matthijsvanemous]

interesting how you constantly talk about the greek translations of the gospels but never about the aramaic texts that predate the greek texts

[SavageHandle]

Lex should make his way to the magic source as soon as possible. He can be quite dull at times, but let's hope this adventure brings out his more exciting side!

[nn-grkw]

Awesome insight in research... offering further contemplation Thank you! 💫🙏

[Jerryberger]

Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here