What FFB is realistic for sim drifting? (2 to 20 Nm)

I tested sim drifting at different force feedback strengths from 2 Nm all the way up to 20 Nm using my direct drive wheelbase, combined with my years of experience drifting real cars, to lean which FFB strength was too weak and a waste of money, which range was good for sim enthusiasts on a limited budget, which is perfect for a sim drifting "forever purchase" and where FFB is too much and you end up paying for wheel strength that you don't actually need.

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00:00 Why the right FFB matters
01:09 Why you should listen to me
01:31 FFB requirements for sim drifting
05:27 Budget Wheels (Logitech and Thrustmaster)
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09:52 Midrange Direct Drive Wheels
11:27 Premium Direct Drive Wheels
14:07 Cost to Performance Considerations
16:15 Wheels for Console Drifters

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[spacedoutcowboy]

This video shows how much quiter nice DD wheels are compared to entry level gear drive wheels. My logitec G920 was so loud

[MazdaChris]

One thing not mentioned here, but worth keeping in mind, is that you ideally want to be using any wheel at less than 100%. This is less of a specific issue with drifting but definitely something for grip driving, since when you're at 100% you can run into a lot of clipping - this is where the motor is operating at its maximum force and can't go further, so you lose all the fine detail from the feedback. You want to have 10-20% of headroom on your wheel to avoid this.

[gothops]

I don’t know why people want 20nm wheels. It’s simply not realistic, at least for the driving I do (even F1 cars have power steering, but F2 doesn’t so idk). I do rally racing in real life and the sim and these cars all have power steering, you don’t need to fight the wheel with every fiber of your being, it’s should be quite easy actually. Depending on the game I might even turn my G Pro down to 4nm like in Dirt Rally and other times keep it up to 10nm in games like WRC10, because the game is definitely not using all 10nm, so there is some game to game difference vs real life as well. But the moral of the story here is you shouldn’t be fighting with your wheel, that does not add realism. Pick a NM that allows feedback to come thru and the wheel to self steer (at least in the case of DD wheels) while still being able to quickly manipulate the wheel yourself. If anything the biggest difference is between a cheaper belt driven wheel and a real DD wheel, that’s the biggest realism improvement you can give yourself.

[staffanstuff]

REGARDING FANATEC: The base is what makes it compatible with Playstation. The wheel is what makes it compatible with Xbox.
So you can use the GT DD Pro/DD+/Extreme with an Xbox compatible wheel and, boom, you can play PC, Playstation and Xbox with the same rig. CSL DD/Clubsport DD will not work the other way around though so you'll be stuck with PC/Xbox only.

[freshcoastdrifttracks]

Sick seeing you drrive my speedsportz track on video! Great video idea and well executed!

[TheBlackHombre]

This is the definitive video for where to get started into sim drifting. Amazing job

[rcsibiu]

Thrustmaster T300 RS GT was an absolute PERFECT wheel for me. 3 pedals, cool shifter, nice 1080°of rotation, great alcantara finish for the stitches, I loved that wheel.
I have some videos on my channel using it.
Then I took my driving license and swapped for a real wheel in an Opel Astra G from 2001.
I still miss my T300 and plan to buy a new one soon just for fun, also my daughter will learn to drive so she will need it for practice *(City Car Simulator is a MUST play for any new driver)

[bullit]

Great work Kame Trick! Can see loads of time and effort went into this one. Great script, b-roll, images, and analysis based on your skills and experience!

[samo]

Your pronaunciation of Tykkimäki, Kouvola was a OK. Was a bit confused that you suddenly said the name of my hometown. Anyway, thank you for the video, it was really helpful. Greetings from Kouvola, Finland!

[limitetpancake]

I've been drifting for over 3y with a logitech g920 with a custom 32cm non deep-dish wheel, and I fully agree that 2.5nm is just not enough from a gear driven wheel. when im upgrading i wanted the moza r5, but im thinking about getting the r9 after seeing this video.
thanks for the great advice

[neonnerd]

Great video. I'm looking to upgrade my wheel soon since I'm using a g920 with an aftermarket wheel. It's not too bad but I have noticed it doesn't quite spin fast enough on certain cars and it does clip and shake a ton when ffb and centering force is cranked up to compensate but I've still had a blast on it since it's what got me into Sim drifting.

[Duwentor]

And not a word about the fact that in the case of 4-6 nm bases, it will be necessary to turn their power to the limit (to achieve the power recommended in this video) and during long sessions at 100% they will overheat or break down faster. This is not yet a category of products where they are capable of large and long-term loads.

[mega]

the production quality is insane!! always great to see new videos keep it up!

[cheemsstar]

I have been sim drifting for 4 years on a cheap ass g920 in assetto and beamng, sims that are fairly hard to master and learn. And even tho i sometimes see the lack of information from my wheel, i learned to predict when the wheel is gonna underdeliver on the FFB and still was able to gain confidence in my driving and put togheter some nice tandems. Still i would love to get my hands on some nice DD rig. Lovely video:)

[brapgarage]

Excellent video, Ben. Fun and informational. Now I know what wheel to aim for next!

[LaidbackMarco]

Wow Kame nice to see you upload another video! The production quality has gone up and you look so healthy glad to see !!

[gtrslngrchris]

Great video! Production level through the roof, man!

[BinderVR]

this is so true. I completely agree with you. I use Fanatec GT DD PRO on 8Nm, on PS5. Just perfect. My older steering wheels are G27, T300, T500, but the DD is a perfect choice.

[Danno-xsjv]

Very informative. All these years I thought it was me (Logitech G29 user)

[SerialDriver]

Interesting but you're missing one important point : slew rate. And stronger bases have also higher slew rate. For example, a sc2 sport might have enough Nm, but has a slower slew rate than the sc2 pro. So even if you're not using all the nm of the sc2 pro, you will have a better experience