Here's Why HDR Games Look 𝗕𝗘𝗧𝗧𝗘𝗥 if Your TV Supports HGiG/ Tone-Mapping Off

We explain why HDR games generally look better on a TV that supports HGiG, or whose tone-mapping can be disabled, such as the Panasonic MZ980 OLED.

Panasonic has also designed its new [True Game] picture mode to deliver accurate D65 white point and colours, therefore faithfully reproducing the creator's intent.

The "Includes Paid Promotion" message in this video refers to the sponsorship by Panasonic.

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[EricMalette]

Vincent you need to do a collab with Digital Foundry on the weird situation in the gaming industry with regards to HDR. It would be fun.

[Teja]

Finally a HDR gaming video from you again after forever!! More of this please 😊

[Pokemonlyfan]

It feels so complicated to buy a great TV for gaming and Video…. This channel helps a lot :) can’t wait to finally buy me a new TV

[mariuszszewczyk]

Great work as usual, I would be interested to see your take on Windows 11 auto HDR and it's Windows store HDR calibration app. There are many folks trying to make sense of that.

[BRDOKYBrazil]

Vicent, we would very much like you to make a NEW video comparing HGiG with Dolby Vision Gaming and what would be the best to be used today, since years have passed since your last video. Thank you very much and keep doing this excellent work.

[Reverend_Rob]

I just switched from LG c1 to TCL c845 mini-LED. It's true that hgig looks accurate but in most games it also makes the overall picture appear to be a little too dim. In Forza Horizon for example, hgig does indeed look nice and very accurate, but when you use the TVs tone mapping instead, you get a very bright picture with only a small amount of lost detail and I find that just more fun to look at personally.

[Construct]

In the end, it still all comes down to personal preference. I recently got my C3 and set it up the way the experts were advocating and some things like HGiG (too dark) or color temp warm 50 just weren't to my liking. I now use my standard mode for the ps5 and enjoy it as much as all the other content

[iraqired]

Amazing effort every time. The content and speed flow of these videos are so informative and satisfying.

[mechanicalmonk]

So I just listened to a talk from a Valve dev where they talked about creating proper metadata for HDR. Kinda funny if they do things correctly. Linux will go from no HDR support to the only correct HDR implementation for games.

[grumpyrocker]

HGIG is great in a dark room on my C2. But I rarely play in dark conditions. I've mostly gone back to using DTM as I play in a well lit room. Reference is great, but it doesn't beat preference when the conditions aren't ideal.

[skatar]

I think I'm done watching this type of content, & not just from here, there are several others that I follow.
Other than setting up a TV initially & updating firmware, I'd rather watch & play games on the TV than worry about all the different settings for this that & the other regarding TVs.
For me it's set it, forget it, & enjoy it, & don't worry about the things I'll never miss!

[lyndonmohammed]

The LG c1 with the ps5, tone mapping is a better choice because with hgig enabled all games are very dark, everyone will have their own preference tho .. play with what makes you happy

[danielmichaelgarcia]

Hmmm, seems like a 6 minute ad for Panasonic tvs to me…

[lewis]

It really depends on the game and how hdr is implemented. Example games like GT7, forza and spiderman look absolutely amazing in hgig on my 77in C1. Brightness not and issue. But with a game like lords of the fallen where the hdr is crap hgig just won't look right, very dark, washed out.

[senseisprotege]

This is why I have tone mapping turned off on my Sony after calibrating on console. Yes, having it ON at Gradiation Preferred or Brightness Preferred gives pop, but often blows out the highlights ☀️

[marselluswallace]

*Still love my 77LZ2000!*
Best TV for PS5 and Movies 🤗

[MaaZeus]

I use the last years Panasonic JZ980 model so I do not have a choice but to use dynamic tone mapping if I also want to have pure 4k120hz. My solution to the problem has been to ignore the test images of PS5 and those inside game and just set the peak brightness in both to 1000 nits (and paperwhite to 150-200 nits if there is one) manually. Many games already tell you the nit values in each slider and there is a chart on the internet for the nit values of PS5 hdr calibration tool, how many clicks from zero I have to go up to get the desired value.

While the test images look wrong just ignore them, let the dynamic tone mapping do its work in actual real life content and start to game. The calibration settings I did are closer to the limits of my displays capabilities and dynamic tone mapping is able to sort it out easier, with sparkling highlights but no blown out midtones as far as I can tell.

[dariomladenovski]

I prefer the brighter look on the LG C3 personally, I don't care about accuracy in games but that's just me

[mariokotlar]

Should have mentioned that this is just as crucial for using TV as an HDR monitor for PC!
Also, I was under the impression that LG oleds support HGIG. What's with the brightness difference against the mastering monitor then? Surely Vincent wouldn't have not enabled HGIG on LG for that comparison? What's going on?

[michaelfoster]

Great content Vincent , bring the real HDTV shootout were the A95L willl havr stiffer competition from Panasonic and Phillips oled .