Is The Left Dangerously Out Of Touch?

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The problem is yall gaslit us and called us crazy for criticizing this shit

matten_zero
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to calll democrats left is out of touch

vidnosh
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I'm a politically minded, left leaning, working class man from yorkshire, and I can honestly say that, although most everyone I know is working class and would say they lean to the left, not one of them care about cultural issues in the slightest. They don't care about rights for the LGBTQ+ community, they don't care about political correctness, they don't care about conflicts in europe or the middle east, and they absolutely don't care about what was said in this or any week's PMQ's.

What they DO care about is the insane amount of work they have to undertake in order to keep a roof over their heads, the equally insane cost of food, and the ever-rising cost of their household bills. That's it.

I would say yes, the left are out of touch, largely because so many on the extreme left see the world through the lense of identity politics, which is then combined with, at times, an overwhelming attitude of entitlement and demonising anyone in disagreement.

I would also argue, though, that it doesn't necessary help to discuss "the left" whilst talking about America's Democratic Party or England's Labour Party, because any party that demonises the elderly, disabled and foreign can't really be classed as left wing, to my mind.

Like I say, I'm politically minded. I care about issues like the genocide in Gaza and the alarming shift of the western world towards right wing ideologies, but for the left to be effective and get back in touch with itself, it needs to remember that most people don't care about that stuff. They just want an affordable life and a fair wage.

RickMartin
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Calling everyone who believes in borders and legal migration "far right" doesn't help.

chuck
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Quite hilarious listening to Novato trying to work out what’s gone wrong when you consider they’ve been thinking they’re right for so long. Zero self awareness. Tragic really.

TheMartyn
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The Dems and the Labour Party are not left.

Redf
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I think one thing we need to do is decouple our social and political analysis from that of the United States. We seem to conflate the two as if there is a lot of commonalities when in fact they are very, very different.

xenophon
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Which left? The left is not out of touch (just look at all the support Sanders had in 2016 and 2020). The neoliberal centre (now labelled as left), however, is. Let the left talk and act seriously once again on minimum wage, progressive taxation, access to health, justice and services, the welfare state! You will see all the support that we can gather.

We need to stop being afraid to offend each and everyone all the time.

Nico
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They are not just out of touch... They are in a different universe.

JohnJackson-ez
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Omg did Ash just realise she’s been living in a bubble?

sonsofstretford
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Seven minutes in and you haven't spoken about a single left-wing person, only democrats

SashaClaudeee
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Novara, you recently did and interview with a spokesman for the Pakistani community about the grooming gangs, with not word of concern or defence of the white English girls that were targeted, but caution of how the Pakistani comminity is affect by the backlash. You're not just out of touch, you have complete and utter disregard for a white/European demographic EVERY time a situation involves a minority.
The consequences of some of YOUR political goals are detrimental to the majority of people you expect to support your cause.

anonymousperson
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How do you explain to people that wealth inequality is the source of the problem?

Everything else stems from that and you should address the wealth inequality first.

That's the problem. Most people see the bills and think "if only tax was less" or "if only xyz group wasn't taking the jobs" or "the government should be helping me instead of these weirdos.".

The system is broken and it isn't getting better.

JasonAtlas
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Since when have Demoncrats been left wing?

CopperHTID
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The Democratic party is a center-right not a left party!!

arthurgarcialucero
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How is this even a question? I live in a deep blue city, Worcester, MA. At the bottom of my street I’ve got an open air drug market, people shooting up openly and the cops don’t do anything. It’s not worth it, they’re not gonna get prosecuted so why waste your time? Our cars have been broken into roughly 4 times a year for the past several years. Cops come through, nothing happens. Massachusetts is a right to shelter state, so with all the immigrants coming in due to the Biden administration policies we now have entire hotels rented out by the state on the taxpayer dime with all the residents using EBT cards. We’ve had enough. You hear it everywhere, you can hear people whispering to each other the things that they can’t say openly. The silent majority showed up for Trump. It’s that simple.

Gauthierbrad
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Yes/no. It's the establishment that's out of touch, not leftists advocating for working class solidarity. Those get largely ignored by establishment liberals.

Suren
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It's identity politics. Why can't they see that.

KevinHooper-pd
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All this race, gender, minority, blaha is a huge problem. Liberal framing.
It's class that unites us. We are one or we die in our little dumb cliques.

thomaswikstrand
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This is so different to NM circa 2018, giddy with possibilities with the Corbyn leadership, telling the centerists that their day was over and to step aside.

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