Did Russia build the best attack helicopter ever?

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[wilbert]

I think one of the reason why the ka 52 suffered more losses than the apache is because it is facing a modern nato backed army armed with many air defences and manpads while the apache did not face much or any modern aa weapons in the middle east. Nonetheless both are incredible feats of Engineering designed to fit each of their own country's doctrine and it's unfortunate that they are designed and used to kill.

[mrhoneycutter]

Don’t worry about the politics when it comes to enjoying this or any other Helicopter/Aircraft. To tweak to a popular US saying, “Helicopters don’t kill people, people kill people”. As for the KA-52, it’s genuinely an incredible Helicopter, both in terms of engineering and aesthetics.

[daemianbox]

To be fair, the war in Ukraine is something of such scale that the Apache never had to face.

[konrad]

The different is, Aligator K52 has to fight in really war, against well equiped army with the newest modern weapon. Apache helicopter so far, fought against people from so called 3rd World with sandals on their feets. The same situation with mighty Leopards, Bradleys finally Challengers etc. These fantastic war machines, never fought before against also fantastic war machines.

[michaelerzuah]

Saw a KA-52 video flying without the tail, that was mind blowing

[hollowsilver]

Saying it's an excellent aircraft does not mean it's been used 100% perfectly (or well at all) in the war in Ukraine. Any aircraft used improperly in a conflict will suffer high casualties especially against a nation that has thousands of MANPADs and an incredible air defense system. In the early part of Ukraine's offense near Zaporizhia, the KA-52 was highly effective against Ukrainian armor.

[thisisafact]

My favourite one for sure. People talking about hi losses but what other helicopter faced this kind of war contested by dense air defences and Manpads ? Helicopters meant to take the risks. They are made to support groud troops by giving close air support taking a huge risk of getting shot down. Really amazing design, money invested well paid off and most importantly performing well as expected

[radomirjacek]

KA-52 losses are actually not as high if you consider how many operations they fly a day. They are deployed non stop during day and night. Percentage wise its pretty decent considering how effective the nato systems that they are facing proved in other conflict. Theres no equivalent comparison since conflicts like these are luckily rare, but lets not forget how vulnerable were the american machines in vietnam or even in somalia... The important aspect tho is their impact on battlefield which proven to be devastating for their oponents.

[rauldelvillar]

The US suffered 50% helicopter losses in Vietnam.
All helicopters are extremely vulnerable in contested airspace.

[wormyboot]

The KA 52 is one of my favorite helicopters, aesthetically. You did a really nice job modeling it.

[srki]

This helicopter is the best, and if you're wondering why it has so many losses, it's because it actually faced a serious opponent and a modern defensive weapon. Unlike the Apaches who met the Taliban in slippers

[tnminhkhoi]

Ukraine literally has the second largest military in Europe after Russia. The KA-52 is fighting a massive air defense system and did so well.

[Chimpunk]

Ka 52 are quite success compare to her arc rival Mil Mi 28. You can see it from how often Russia deploy them in the frontlines.

[michaelmckeever]

One of the more frustrating things for the Russians, the Ka-52 was designed to be so survivable that even a nasty hit from a MAPADS would allow the pilot to safely land the helicopter before ejecting. This is why a lot of Ka-52's are recovered still in tact with the crew having long scattered. It's built to take a beating and keep going. And when it takes too much of a beating, the pilots can always eject.

[peterlangan]

The loss statistics are really worse for the Apache. It was facing not much at all in air defence. The KA 52 is being used in a dense AA situation and still mostly survives. The Vitebsk defence system can defeat multiple attacks by stingers etc. The Apache would not survive that. If I was buying it would be the KA 52.

[ДокторЯдо]

"A beautiful helicopter that has an awful purpose" - not different from any warmachine, really.

[wolfdima]

I think Ka-52 took the best traits of Cobra, Apache and Mi-24 + tons of bold innovation of Kamov engineering school. Besides it's a main Russian workhorse against western armor on the frontlines, so some losses are inevitable.

[xxmobstrxx]

This helicopter is beautiful work of engineering and has performed exceptionally well when considering the massive amounts of AA systems constantly attempting to take it down.

[anp]

Ka52 flying with a badly damaged tail shows that it's easily one of the best....

[ИванИванов-фзн]

Отличный вертолёт сделали, самое удивительное что вся серия самолётов Ка, долгое время уступала серии Ми, потому что конструктор Миль был более влиятельным в советском руководстве, чем Камов.
Сегодня сложно найти на войне экипаж К 52, который уничтожил меньше 10 бронированных машин.