The True Impact Of AI On Software Engineering

This is the true impact of AI on software engineering, as per Amazon CEO Andy Jassy.

[vjunloc]

Sounds more like an advertisement for their new 'Q service'

[boot-strapper]

Amazon cant even make a decent UI. Imma call bullshit

[QwertyNPC]

I call bullshit. Show the work. Let's see what those 4500 dev years, 1642500 dev days actually stand for in terms of real product.

[emperorpalpatine]

I hope this time they didn't give all that java migration to 150 000 indian developers

[coldlyanalytical]

It seems that:
* AI will free up the better engineers to do more useful work
* AI will cause the less-creative and less-capable engineers to be laid off

[Mirvelik]

I am sorry, but it sounds like Amazon Q's sales talk. No more, no less. And yes, the numbers might be super manipulative in such talks

[SidTheITGuy]

Yeah some guy on LinkedIn said it and some YouTuber is throwing stats at us. So it must be true, right?

Don't fall for this people.

[Mirvelik]

form the original BS post:
"This is a great example of how large-scale enterprises can gain significant efficiencies in foundational software hygiene work by leveraging Amazon Q. It’s been a game changer for us, and not only do our Amazon teams plan to use this"

[ESCAcarlos]

Those are 4500 dev years from junior devs trying to have their first experience in a code base and break into the industry! Those are bad news for every university student!

[jceddy]

It's just another powerpoint bullet to put on a earnings call -- all nonsense.

[waldenwasted]

It means less jobs and more competition.

[guitarbuddha]

There are still so many issues with LLMs. Just use them for a bit and I'm sure at your coding level you would see it really quick. I have found kind of like you said it saves time on tedious stuff like boilerplate things or getting an initial skeleton of stuff going. I have also used it for helping me learn more programming but you pretty much have to test everything. It really is non deterministic and will just sneak stuff in there or will use an older way of doing something. The worst thing is it placing some type of logical issue in your code that testing doesn't catch. Sure you can also make that kind of error but so can AI. I think it is still really important to fully understand what it is doing and not get complacent unless it dramatically improves soon. I think it is a decent helper if you are smart and know what to leverage. I won't hold my breath thinking most companies will do that though.

[JosifovGjorgi]

This is more sales pitch for Java then it is for Amazon Q

Java is backward compatible since day 1 and migration from Java 8 to latest Java is mostly missing libraries that can be detect at startup times

However, I want to see Python 2.7 to latest Python migration and how smoothly that went, that is real challenge for Amazon Q to solve

[tdsora]

i work at amazon. it doesn't take 50 days to upgrade to java 17 lol. its literally one line of code most times. Some packages require more work, but it will be a few hours, not 50 days. our ceo is a clown

[jrajesh]

First of all, the managers and directors need to be be replaced fully. Recruitment can be done by AI alone. All administrative paper work by govt should be replaced with AI.

[JTP]

Unless I'm missing something, I struggle to see how this pattern will continue where AI can help with tedious migrations as newer frameworks/languages/etc are released and there isn't enough training data for the AI. The first few months (years?) of a new major release will still require engineers to do the brunt of the work until the AI models can catch up.

[Coufu]

I kinda feel bad for interns and junior engineers of the future who build a lot of their skills fixing these bugs and doing the more tedious work. Same thing for visual designers and how AI is taking their tedious jobs too.

[petemorris]

Ah the optimism of youth. Give it a few more years and you’ll find the “exciting” work tedious as fuck too.

[SkyNhett]

You are missing a key point.
If you can ask AI for the answer, why do you need a program?
If you don't need a program, you don't need a programmer.

[dasaavawarsuploads]

It has reduced new job placements for sure. We are hiring less than 20% new engineers as we used to before the pandemic. But the workload and expectations have increased from the management team.