Intersectional Vegans Don't Understand Intersectionality

What is intersectional veganism? Why is the current approach to intersectionality on animal rights (applied by the likes of Queer Brown Vegan) incorrect? Is there a correct way of applying intersectionality to animal rights? I explain all of this and more in this video.

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1. "Total Liberation",

2. "Humans Are Animals"

3. "What I hear is"

4. Slaughterhouse workers suffer from a form of PTSD
Slaughtering for a living: A hermeneutic phenomenological perspective on the well-being of slaughterhouse employees

Further Reading:
[4a] Perpetration-Induced Traumatic Stress: The Psychological Consequences of Killing (Psychological Dimensions to War and Peace)

[4b] A Slaughterhouse Nightmare: Psychological Harm Suffered by Slaughterhouse Employees and the Possibility of Redress through Legal Reform

[4c] Toward Rational, Authentic Food Choices | Melanie Joy | TEDxMünchen

[4d] THE DISTURBING LINK BETWEEN SLAUGHTERHOUSE WORKERS AND PTSD

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[mairzydoats]

Based and vegpilled. I've always thought of intersectionalism in veganism as another way to empathize with the animals. I understand what it means to me to be valued, abused, and generalized by society based on my bodily characteristics. It sucks and I don't want to do that to anyone else. But I never thought about it this way, you've done a bang-up job 💚🌱

[thebowandbullet]

Very well explained! I never understood why some vegans call themselves intersectionals. You can be vegan AND be an activist for human causes. There's no need to dilute the *only* animal rights movement with human causes which already have their own movements.

Note that vegan intersectionals never go to the LGBTQIA/BLM/etc. movements to tell them they need to advocate for animals too as part of their own movements.

[SubtleSalmon]

Excellent point on laying hens and dairy cows living on the intersection of speciesism and misogyny. And for anyone looking for a closer look at why laying hens and dairy cows have it worse than male livestock get out
Erin Janus's videos on "dairy is scary" and "what's wrong with eggs?"

[CatherineKlein]

Excellent breakdown! 👏🏼
Love the “based” intersectional veganism vs “woke” intersectional veganism distinction lmao 😂

[jordanmarson]

I think one of the issues is that vegans conflate the ideas of consistent anti-oppression and intersectionality. They’re quite separate concepts.

[extropiantranshuman]

I disagree with the point that humans can be left out of speciesist talks, white out of racism activism, and males for being favored in society. Humans can endure speciesism - which is seen when animals are fed before humans, etc.

[keepar]

There's so much feminist literature explaining this— the exploitation of a non-human animal's body, especially a female's body, compared to a human woman's exploitation— and I am so glad to see a video about it! I know not much feminist literature gets circulated nowadays, so thanks for shining light on this issue.

[threepoundsofflax]

I don't think cows suffer from sexism as such. They suffer from discrimination based on biological sex purely for practical reasons. Unlike in the human context, their oppression it is not due to their lives or interests being valued less than their male counterparts - both are valued at effectively zero. Animals are merely exploited in whatever way is convenient to humans which ends up differentiating individuals by biological sex

[CarnismDebunked]

They don't understand anything, let alone intersectionality.

[marxistlynchist]

I appreciate your perspective here, but I don’t think you give the current intersectional vegan movement enough credit. Sure, these massive accounts have essentially just existed for a while to just spew pseudo-progressive talking points without referencing any academic or real world experience- but the grassroots movement has adopted what you call the “based” form of intersectional veganism from the start whilst advocating for other human issues alongside. Massive groups like DxE and the ALF have been built on this stance of both total liberation and the recognition that non-human animals experience a unique and more significant degree of suffering that all marginalised groups should find some way of identifying with. Nobody has dismantled the “veganism is anti-indigenous” argument better than them.

[tphalange]

Based. You're the second YouTuber (first one was David) I know that addresses this incorrect use of that term, and certainly goes deep into it. Finally, well done.

Other than sex, there are many factors that intersect with species resulting in overlapping discrimination towards non-human animals, for example, breeds, ability/disability, and of course, different species. It's our job to help them break the monolith.

[th]

This conversation is absolute madness. Cows live the only lige they have ever known. They are living inside ‘platos cave’. We need smart people like you being educated on things that actually progress innovation and product development.

[Wearethersistance]

This perspective very interesting, I enjoyed listening. However, I would have to disagree with your main point about humans not experiencing Speciesism. The exploitation, colonisation, genocide of many humans across the world have been able to happen due to their dehumanisation. If we look at what is happening now in Palestine, Israel are dehumanising Palestinians to cultivate hate towards them to justify their violence. Additionally people of afro-descent have been dehumanised for 700 years, 19th century pseudoscience "evidenced" that people of afro descent are like chimps and do not align with the category of human, hence why a lot of verbal racism towards black people relate to naming them as some kind of ape or monkey, they also faced many of the same atrocities non-human animals face today, like forced insemination, being stripped away from their families etc. Of course this brutality has changed (in some contexts, not all, as modern human slavery is still very real for many people), but the systems still exist which result in present day racism. This is something Aph Ko talks about extensively in her book. As a vegan who aims to apply an intersectional perspective to my activism, I believe it is important to make it possible for everyone to omit animals from their diet and this means addressing the systems of oppression that prevents many people from being able to do this, such as food injustice. In this way, everyone wins, human animals and non-human animals, because more humans are able to transition to animal free consumption. What are your thoughts on this?

[MarcelRiegler]

Intersectionality has, like most interesting terms, been oversimplified to simply "caring about more than one thing". It's the same with mansplaining, or feminism/patriarchy.

That being said, I recently watched an interesting talk that DOES highlight a way in which racism and speciesism intersect. You can just search "Black Veganism", but the elevator pitch is that "Are they human?" is used in both instances to discriminate, and that's no coincidence. It argues that effective anti-racism requires veganism and vice versa.

[violetjade]

thank you so much for this, vegan twitter has been annoying because of these human-centric “vegans” recently

[somnambuplant]

isnt the line between species kinda blurry sometimes? like some humans have been dehumanised and existed as livestock, id think individuals in that situation would be able to feel the effects of speciesism? of course, dehumanisation is often done along racial/gender lines but its the exclusion from the socially constructed concept of the human species that allows for intensified oppression. not trying to nitpick or anything, i appreciate the video and would love to hear anyones thoughts on this, as ive always felt a personal connection to veganism thru the potential for me, like my ancestors, to be redefined as nonhuman and kept as property, but maybes that would just be juiced up racism?

[bengrunewald]

I am thinking I agree with another comment that it's not really sexism that causes the worse suffering of female animals just maximizing profit within a capitalist framework. Therefore there is no right way to apply intersectionality to veganism.

[vegancolleen]

Brilliant. I hope this video is seen far and wide throughout and beyond the vegan community. Thank you!

[LeaD]

Great video on the topic!

I’m a pro-intersectional vegan and I consider myself “woke” and you explained it well.