Iwo Jima Corsair Fly By - Flags of our Fathers

In February and March of 1945, U.S. troops fight and win one of the most crucial and costly battles of the war on the island of Iwo Jima. A photo of U.S. servicemen raising the flag on Mount Suribachi becomes an iconic symbol of victory to a war-weary nation. The individuals themselves become heroes, though not all survive the war and realize it.

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[bodasactra]

Take it easy they picked him up. He was killed in the first few minutes of the landing.

[xrayperforator]

There were always several transport ships in the last line of convoy, assigned to rescue operations, that used to stop and help, even in obvious danger of U-Boats or air attacks. My grandmother's uncle was a commanding officer of one of those.

[JohnnysWarStories]

Remember everyone that this is a movie and a character's opinion or view in a movie is specific to that character. Just because Paul Walker's character thinks they are "not going to stop" doesn't make this movie historically inaccurate. Obviously there were methods of retrieving men in these situations. If you have some historical information to share feel free to do so.

[randyblackburn]

At the end when he said “ no man left behind “ the guy beside him looks like the actor who played the valiant slave in The Eagle

[dorkmax]

Although there are situations in wartime where man overboard procedures may be countermanded, this is not one of them. MOB is not ignored simply because "we're on a time crunch", its ignored when the enemy is nearby and taking time to fish him out can risk the lives of others. The battle group's time to arrival is not harmed by sending out one motorized dinghy to get him, or even by one ship cutting its screws and pulling him in by a line

[garypulliam]

There would have been a flotilla-wide, coordinated general response to save this guy. All ships would have been notified, dyes would have been fired into the water, flares would have been shot off, rescue boats would have been launched, and this guy would have been out of the water in twenty minutes. All the Navy did (and does) is drill for man overboard scenarios. This scene is stupid.

[BeanyUndead]

So inaccurate. They had special lines just for this purpose. A boom on the next ship would be extended and a long rope lowered. The man overboard would grab on and they'd then drag him aboard. They even had tethered operators would could go into the water with a harness and rescue sailors who could't grab onto a rope independently. Happened dozens of times during WW2, especially in the Pacific. If falling overboard was a death-sentence, no captain would allow their men to hang-over the side. WW2 was dramatic enough; why do directors always want to inject 'stupid drama' into their films? So dumb.

[RodsAndAxes]

Only thing realistic about this video is that they called "man overboard, " immediately ran to the stern, kept eyes on him, and tossed him a life preserver. The bridge would have radioed the fleet and another ship farther back in formation would have picked him up.

[jackpinesavage]

My Uncle, Lt. j.g. Keith Messenger, flew a Corsair fighter off the U.S.S. Hornet (CV-12) during WW2.
He passed away a few years ago, at the age of 90. I remember his smile and his laughter.
Fair winds and following seas, Uncle Keith.

[MikeD-loyb]

Aside from the whole leaving him to die thing. Why would that ship be travelling so high in the water that it's propellor wasn't even submerged. All seems a bit stupid

[arkwill]

This scene just doesn't seem accurate to me. There _would_ be some effort made to fish this man out of the drink. Now, quite understandably, the big troop transport ships themselves wouldn’t pull out of formation and turn around as they were too valuable, vulnerable, and slow, but there were PLENTY of other types of ships in a convoy this size which could and would. This invasion fleet was truly massive. There are hundreds of Destroyers, Destroyer Escorts, Corvettes, Minesweepers, Ocean-going Tugs, or any other number of auxiliary ships. They all have launches or whaleboats which would be quickly lowered and the man fished out without the ship even having to come to a full stop and make itself vulnerable to a submarine attack. The Navy does man-overboard drills all the time so it's second nature to them. Since the whole convoy can only sail as fast as the slowest ship, a Destroyer could easily pull out, pick the man up, and catch back up without affecting the overall timetable in the slightest.

[Tiger]

This and Letters from Iwo Jima did a great job of showing the sheer scale of what was happening. Not since then have the forces been so overwhelmingly massive, and still it was a hard fight.

[sirarnie]

I have trouble believing they would just leave him to die. There has to have been a ton of other escort vessels that could scoop him up.
Also, there is a real WWII video of the US Navy attempting to rescue a downed Japanese pilot in the ocean. The Japanese pilot refuses to be rescued and uses a hand grenade to kill himself. That video is on YouTube if you want to watch.
So you are telling me the Navy would stop to get an enemy but not their own Sailor?

[brandonden]

No one:
Soldiers when a plane flies by: 🕺🕺🏊

[randmayfield]

I was on the Coast Guard cutter Iris and the first thing you learn is if you get caught "fantail-jumping" and you go over the side, if they get you back, you are in serious trouble. You don't last long in the north Pacific because the water is so cold. The water around Iwo Jima was survivable to a degree. We would snorkel around the west side of Surabachi all day long with no wet suits.

[aviationgaming]

A movie called Devotion is being filmed near my house and it features Corsairs as it’s about Jesse Brown and his wingman

[chrislondo]

The Lane Victory in this movie acting as a transport carrying the Marines to Iwo Jima. Was also in Thin Red Line though carrying the Army units over to Guadalcanal. Even simulated the movements of the Titanic in the James Cameron movie.

[williepreston]

I was in the ARMY, not the Navy, but, this scene doesn't seem right. I don't think that would've been true. Even if they couldn't stop, a ship could throw a rubber raft down there for him until a naval craft CAN pick him up. If it's not accurate, it SHOULD NOT be in the movie.

[sd]

The RMS Queen Mary hit the British cruiser HMS HMS Curacao and cut it in half and kept on going. There was no way the Queen Mary was going to stop or would be allowed to stop when she was carrying 15, 000 troops. More than 300 British lost their lives.

[EricA-zygj]

All these years I never noticed Paul walker was in this movie